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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2007, 05:26:45 PM »
that is the problem. there arent many show barns where i am at. i have plenty of room to add on to the building. what do you guys use as stalls. and how about your wash stalls
We used to have money....Now we show cattle.

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2007, 11:37:08 AM »
Where are you located?  I will try and get you some pictures, thing have been very hectic. 
I agree though, we spent years planning our new barn and toured every barn we could to come up with what seemed to works best for others.

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2007, 11:39:39 AM »
we are in southwest ks
We used to have money....Now we show cattle.

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2007, 11:50:26 AM »
pigguy- that's what we did when we built both our barns. We went around looking at different set-ups to get ideas. since our big barn also stores some of the farm's equipment, we knew we needed high ceilings & big doors.

My hubby made most of the gates we use for pens. I realize not everyone can do that but it really saved $ & also he made them to a specific size.

Lighting is very important too. You need good lights & also lots of electrical outlets. My biggest mistake was not having an indoor washrack put in. Although I just wash outside the door, it gets very cold & icy in the winter. I don't think the hubby thought we'd continue washing calves after the daughter was done w/ 4-H. Surprised him when I keep going out in below freezing weather. I know OH B checks to make sure I haven't snuck an extra heifer into his place!

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2007, 02:53:40 PM »
I'd be tickled to death, with the structures you guys are complaining about! Be thankful for your blessings.

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2007, 09:05:20 PM »
garybob - I am not complaining about my barn - I love my barn!

On another related topic something we haven't really specifically discussed..cow comfort ...including air quality, footing, temperature etc. When I designed my barn I thought about cow  comfort, safety (cow and human), and convience - as a work in progress it is always being tweeked!
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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2007, 10:39:00 PM »
wish i had enough to build a new barn, ours is only good for leading in circles, hay, water, and a feed room
The livestock (show) industry is a tough one- if you've never had anything worth a damn you might as well go on the internet and rundown everybody you can.

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2007, 04:43:22 AM »
I think we all can dream about what if! I think that is some of the best & cheapest thing to do in life.

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2007, 09:16:52 AM »
garybob - I am not complaining about my barn - I love my barn!

On another related topic something we haven't really specifically discussed..cow comfort ...including air quality, footing, temperature etc. When I designed my barn I thought about cow  comfort, safety (cow and human), and convience - as a work in progress it is always being tweeked!


I think air quality is something that is overlooked alot, a friend of mine has a spectactular facility in every aspect except air movement and quality - in the summer there is no air movement whatsoever, even with turbo fans it stays hot even with 14' side walls. I personally like limey chips for a base on the barn floor (natural PH balancer) cows have good footing on it and when you clean the barn, anything you haul out can be replaced easily and cheaply. Safety and convienience - I work by myself most of the time so convienience and functionability are big issues. I do not like tubs at all, I preferr long twisting - turning alley ways that lead to the scale and chute.
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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2007, 05:30:46 PM »
I think we all can dream about what if! I think that is some of the best & cheapest thing to do in life.

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We dreamed for 20 years before building this new barn, they don't happen over night, everything is very expensive!  Take your time and make sure when you build that you get what you wanted.

Ok, here are the pictures I promised.  This 1st set is other peoples barns that we felt were the most functional from a show side. 
1.  The 1st picture is for Red, this barn belongs to Barry Queen (J-Bar Ranch), his facitlity is a little older and very functional.  The inside right of this building houses a walk in cooler, the 1st section is a wash rack and then you walk through a set of doors into the actual cooler.  The outside pen sections are all connected to the fencing and flow through to an outside chute and load out.
2-5.  These pictures are from Bonham Show Cattle, they have one of the best facilities that we toured and we built the cooler following his set up.  Our cooler is a 12 X 48 enough space for 12 calves  and his is (I think) a 16 X 50 X 2 cooler sides alike, we didn't think we needed the 16 feet extra space in the back, but really wish we had gone ahead with it.  The pen systems they have are excellent for show cattle, well designed and functional.  The wash rack is still on our list of to do's however we will build ours indoors other than that wouldn't change it, I don't think it gets as cold there as it does here.

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2007, 05:42:44 PM »
i really like yours jill  (clapping)
The livestock (show) industry is a tough one- if you've never had anything worth a damn you might as well go on the internet and rundown everybody you can.

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2007, 06:06:35 PM »
Ok, here are the pictures from our barn.  We did things probably a little different, we needed a multi-function barn, we have a construction company and have machinery and parts in part of the barn.  We have the show cattle and needed it to be functional for the cows calving also, our winters are cold and when it gets too cold we calve everything out in the barn.  We built a 72 (the most with no interior beam) X 120 main barn and a 36 X 120 lean to that is attached.  We live in a VERY urban area so we built it so that it could easily be converted to an indoor riding area with horse stalls in the lean to on 12 foot centers.  If I read this right the barn doors are 30 X 16 and we have them on the West, North and South, on the East we have 2 6 foot sliding walk through doors and figured if we ever have a sale those would work great.  Our working facility is set up on the South end of the lean to with a drive through load at gate at the exit of the barn.  We didn't really like the tub idea, it seemed single function for no more cattle than we process, we went with the WW called Classic 300-S-10ft with a Stampeed Steele chute.  We liked this set up because 1 person can work cattle on it can be all shut down to make 3 pens for calving.  Our center alley opens up into pens that we have set up as 24 foot width, but can be 12 foot if needed, there is a feeder panel and a walk through gate in each pen and a richie water at the 12 foot divider panel so each 12 feet has a water hole.  I don't know how far out it is, but the overhead you see it the clean out alley, these pens can either be long runs (when money and time permits the pens will run the full length of the pasture for rotational grazing option) or the gates can be shut to make additional short pens.  The pens on the west side of the lean to are the calving pens.  The cooler and wash rack are inside the main barn.  It has 16 foot side walls and the east and west sides will both have second story hay storage areas, the cupalos are vented and have attic fans that kick on at I think 85 to pull the hot air out of the top of the barn.  The floors in the lean to are all a thick lime base on a slope.  The gutter drains, wash rack drain, cooler drain, office and bathroom drains all are connected underground and daylight out in the pasture. As far as electric goes, we have an 800 amp service that does both the house and barn.  If you instal a seperate meter for the barn you are charge a commercial rate for your power, check with your electric company before you make a decision to get a 2nd meter, it may be a costly mistake, it would have been for us.  Anyway, I have probably rambeled enough, l like DL we love our barn, it is a work in progress and we still have a ways to go, but it is so nice.

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2007, 06:55:05 AM »
great set-up Jill, I'm jealous!
But where were the corgis?

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2007, 06:26:23 PM »
It all depends on whether you are fancy functional or plain functional. If you are fancy go to Jac's Ranch in Bentonville, AR (very, very nice) If you are plain, like most of us are go see Wilson Cattle Co. in Cloverdale, IN

Both are big time angus outfits, both have really functional facilities. Just one is fancier than the other

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Re: building a new barn
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2007, 09:09:25 PM »
jacs is pretty flashy
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