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« on: July 01, 2009, 10:35:28 PM »
Have a steer that just started popping its back ankles. What will help stop the popping?
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2009, 11:28:59 PM »
I was told getting their hooves trimmed every 6 weeks, good mineral, and maybe some BoSE.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 07:11:19 AM »
How big is he?
I know some people use Legend. It's an IV drug that has to be administered by a vet. It's used on performance horses, but works on cattle. No withdraw time if that's an issue. This drug goes right to the problem area, and lubricates the joint, or joints.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 10:11:13 AM »
Iowann,
  For how long is Legand effective? Is it a drug you have to give bi-weekly? monthly? Just curious, as I have a heifer doing the same thing.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 10:50:45 AM »


  MuSe or Bose injections will straighten it out Selenium lacking or tied up is the problem.  Vigorotone 32sctc plus is our mineral of choice  the injections of mineral max may help but selenium amount is not the answer its ratio of selenium
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 11:38:53 AM »
Quote from: lowann on July 02, 2009, 07:11:19 AM
How big is he?
I know some people use Legand. It's an IV drug that has to be administered by a vet. It's used on performance horses, but works on cattle. No withdraw time if that's an issue. This drug goes right to the problem area, and lubricates the joint, or joints.
There is probably no with drawal time because it prob is not approved for cattle which would make it illegal
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 12:09:53 PM »
ahh... BUT, if it is prescribed and administered by a vet, it is legal.

For those wondering http://www.bayerdvm.com/Products/legend/legend-labels.cfm
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 12:18:20 PM »
Quote from: shorthorngirl2010 on July 02, 2009, 12:09:53 PM
ahh... BUT, if it is prescribed and administered by a vet, it is legal.

For those wondering http://www.bayerdvm.com/Products/legend/legend-labels.cfm


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LAST I KNEW HEIFERS AND STEERS ARE NOT HORSES.

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 12:57:59 PM »
yes, i know steers and heifers are not horses.  not trying to start anything, was simply sharing what i've been taught, appears to be a grey area as i talk to more people.
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 01:17:48 PM »
Your vet can prescribe a drug that isn't for cattle and will give you a withdraw on it, as long as it is prescribed and you follow the withdraw (and I would suggest you get it is writing) you are fine, it's not a grey area it's called veterinary medicine.
My guess is that this application would be for such a minor amount of cattle and only for the show ring that it just isn't worth the hundreds of thousand for the drug companies to go through the testing and get it approved for beef.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2009, 03:54:06 PM »
trim the feet
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2009, 08:10:03 PM »
Quote from: shorthorngirl2010 on July 02, 2009, 10:11:13 AM
Iowann,
  For how long is Legand effective? Is it a drug you have to give bi-weekly? monthly? Just curious, as I have a heifer doing the same thing.
1 time every six weeks. Has to be administered by a vet.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2009, 08:12:12 PM »
Quote from: mooch on July 02, 2009, 11:38:53 AM
Quote from: lowann on July 02, 2009, 07:11:19 AM
How big is he?
I know some people use Legand. It's an IV drug that has to be administered by a vet. It's used on performance horses, but works on cattle. No withdraw time if that's an issue. This drug goes right to the problem area, and lubricates the joint, or joints.
There is probably no with drawal time because it prob is not approved for cattle which would make it illegal
Sorry to inform you, it has to be administered by a Veterinarian, and he said no problem, it goes right to the affected joint. It is NOT illegal to use in cattle.
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2009, 08:39:57 PM »
We use Natrual Stride and it works really good.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2009, 08:46:49 PM »
Quote from: Jill on July 02, 2009, 01:17:48 PM
Your vet can prescribe a drug that isn't for cattle and will give you a withdraw on it, as long as it is prescribed and you follow the withdraw (and I would suggest you get it is writing) you are fine, it's not a grey area it's called veterinary medicine.
My guess is that this application would be for such a minor amount of cattle and only for the show ring that it just isn't worth the hundreds of thousand for the drug companies to go through the testing and get it approved for beef.
Right Jill, I know a few people that use it on show steers that are getting to the end of their career. They just want to keep them sound. It also relieves any joint pain they are having. These were 1250-1300 lb steers.
Also, this was a last resort when Sride, or other additives didn't work.
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