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The Big Show / Re: Hill Haven Fire Storm 28C
« on: January 12, 2019, 04:00:38 PM »
I am not hearing any horror stories about calving problems from Fire Storm here in Canada. Of course, if there are birth weight issues, the sires almost always gets the blame. A few years ago, I purchased some semen from a well known calving ease trait leader, and I used a few straws. I had two bull calves born and I castrated both because they were over my own rule of any bull calf over 110 lbs gets banded at birth no matter how good they are. These two calves were the only two I banded in that calf crop. I don't think it was only because of the sire.  I wish we could have an easier way to discuss calving ease besides by using birth weights. Birth weights are a component of calving ease, but as a leading cattle buyer said to me, " if I wanted lighter birth weights, the first thing I would do is select genetics that would produce shorter bodied calves". To me, this makes some sense. I have been told that taking 1 inch out of the rib of a new born calf represents 8-10 lbs, I have never been able to find research to prove if this is correct or not, but one person told me that Oregon State did some research that found this to be true.
Getting back to Fire Storm, I am pretty sure that we would be hearing about the horror stories if they were happening out there. So far, I have heard none. In regards to his sire, Waco, I looked back in my calving records and I have had 8 Waco sired calves born here. All unassisted with BWs of 90-102 lbs.


would a longer calf not be easier born than a deeper bodied calf?  i suppose its all about balance in everything

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The Big Show / Re: Market Steer Show Judging
« on: November 03, 2018, 03:38:30 PM »
A terminal calf show winner in the uk

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The Big Show / Re: Market Steer Show Judging
« on: November 03, 2018, 01:40:14 PM »
In scotland the terminal calf shows are dominated but limousin cross calves sometimes a lim x blue and they are hard fleshed but sure look pretty we had been watching a judge go through the motions in the championship one year and he had two calves up that resembled racing snakes with a fur jacket and a guy alomg from me said the judge should be made to buy the steer and no eat any other beef till it was finshed and that would be the finish that kind of show calf

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The Big Show / Re: Royal Highland show 1966
« on: November 02, 2018, 03:16:20 AM »
Did they also buy the bapton herd managed by Gordon blackstock In the early 60s too I seem to remember reading it was sold to canada and gordon was to go too but he died in a road accident near aberdeen in the middle 60s on the same idea louda came too uppermill all through the 1950s and bought the pick of the heifer crop each year

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The Big Show / Royal Highland show 1966
« on: November 01, 2018, 02:42:14 PM »
I have found a catalouge from the royal highland show printed for the 1966 show and it lists the past winners of the uppermill cup for best female and in 1963 the winners are cadesky and Donaldson is this the louda people?

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whats the breeding of your moilies?

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The Big Show / stirling bull sale champ
« on: November 04, 2017, 06:19:23 PM »

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The Big Show / Re: Balmyle Zeus and Balmyle Zephyr's Maine breeding
« on: October 30, 2017, 02:34:51 AM »
All the females in the pictures posted are magnificent! Like the Burke Trophy winning pair as well, so balanced, and the female has tremendous capacity.
In my opinion the Nearhouse James bull, in the picture, is a bit posty in the hind legs.

I never saw near house James in the flesh but people said his back legs was his weakness when I was in Orkney I asked his owner Mr flett if I could see him but he took a party of us Inc james' breeder and we got to see the farm and most of the herd but he wouldnt let us near James he knew we were after a stock bull for uppermill (where I worked at the time) and he would only let me see the sale bulls which worked because we bought one of them but I would of taken James from what I heard about him

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The Big Show / Re: Balmyle Zeus and Balmyle Zephyr's Maine breeding
« on: October 30, 2017, 02:25:55 AM »
The two females are mother and daughter and are line bred to balmyle scorpio whoes grandfather is Echard they also have Egidius in their pedigree a lot too


cow looks to much like a Maine.  better get rid of her.


we think as much of her we are thinking of flushing her

The cow is about 82% beef shorthorn

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The Big Show / Re: Balmyle Zeus and Balmyle Zephyr's Maine breeding
« on: October 29, 2017, 01:56:11 AM »
The two females are mother and daughter and are line bred to balmyle scorpio whoes grandfather is Echard they also have Egidius in their pedigree a lot too


cow looks to much like a Maine.  better get rid of her.


we think as much of her we are thinking of flushing her   

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The Big Show / Re: Balmyle Zeus and Balmyle Zephyr's Maine breeding
« on: October 27, 2017, 02:43:34 AM »
here are a few more of the balmyle breeding forst picture is balmyle crackle last bull to be sold by balmyle after they dispersed champion of the Perth bull sales 1990 and top price of 4000 guineas breed champion at the royal show 4 times which i think would be a record winner of the burke trophy (an interbreed cup for one male and one female at that time the continental breeds esp Charolais owned it) and breed champion at the royal highland next picture is crackle and Flossy Fretta (84%and Balmyle breeding on both sides) winning the bruke trophy next two pictures are Nearhouse Rob Roy and nearhouse james crackle sons and both Orkney county show champions in there day the Orkney show would be as strong a show quality wise as any in the UK 

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The Big Show / Re: Balmyle Zeus and Balmyle Zephyr's Maine breeding
« on: October 26, 2017, 02:11:46 PM »
here is a picture of balmyle warpath a full brother to Zeus warpath was said to be the best bull to stand at the durnos uppermill herd between the second world war and its sale to northern ireland in 2005 he won the royal highland the english royal shows the only year he was ever shown and bred a lot of great bulls and females. The two females are mother and daughter and are line bred to balmyle scorpio whoes grandfather is Echard they also have Egidius in their pedigree a lot too a the UK herd book has been closed to maine breeding since 2001 give or take a year a lot of people now over here and esp in Ireland condemn the maine influence but all the top herds today have balmlye breeding in them and there is no doubt there wouldnt be a breed worth saving in the UK with out the work at Balmyle Bill Bruce and his cattleman Friar Thompson have done the breed a great service and dont get the credit for it today i spoke to Bill last year and i am sure he said he had some maine semen left i think it was Egidius

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The Big Show / Re: beef shorthorn sale stirling scotland
« on: October 20, 2017, 03:40:10 PM »
we dont put pictures of the cattle look you guys do  (it costs money) we are parhaps backwards at selling our selves (there is the odd exception) nothing to stop you flying over and having a look cattle would be too big for a lot of guys in north america and fed to an inch of there lives and off there legs but if there no fat they wont sell will post a link of the sale report next week hopefully some pictures too but be warned the oct sale for bulls isnt just what you was call ground breaking price of bull has risen a bitty but the harvest has been a disaster in scotland and straw and food will be very expensive this winter

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The Big Show / beef shorthorn sale stirling scotland
« on: October 16, 2017, 03:10:45 PM »
here is a link to the stirling bull sales in scotland

http://www.uagroup.co.uk/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=BN6zZ2TmPds%3d&tabid=1004

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The Big Show / embryos
« on: July 07, 2017, 02:17:51 PM »
whats the most expensive embryos? in scotland last week there was 6 red native aberdeen angus embryos made 6520 a piece thats about $10800 canadian 

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