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I suggested a state show to several folks the day the Iowa State Fair was cancelled, but I haven't heard anything yet.  Our County Fair is holding a 1 day show and go event with only immediate family members allowed to attend.  Talking to old and new friends is most common for most of us old timers, so that would most likely be impossible with limited attendance and mingling. 

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The Big Show / Re: Arsulu Maxwell
« on: July 08, 2020, 09:13:07 AM »
I saw him as a calf and liked him along with his Irish-Maine genetics.  We had several calves and they were pretty good.  He was not what I would call an easy calver, but no extreme difficulties either.

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The Big Show / Re: Happy Canada Day.
« on: July 06, 2020, 10:39:33 AM »
I for one enjoy reading people's opinions on this site on topics other than cattle.  If a specific thread does not interest me, I just don't read it.  Cattle do not occupy 100% of my time or thinking.  Like it or not, the political arena plays a vital role in our cattle operations.  Up until the very recent ag Covid-19 program, there have been very, very few USDA programs with cattle producers in mind.  Maybe that's not all bad, but grain farmers have been almost overrun with government programs for decades.  I had hoped JIT would let us know what's going on in Canada.  I think it's extremely important to stay involved with what's going on in the world on topics other than which bull carries genetic defects.  By the way, my wife told me the other night that the Wizard of Oz is going to eliminate the scarecrow.  They decided he would upset too many people that didn't have a brain.     

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The Big Show / Re: Happy Canada Day.
« on: July 01, 2020, 09:41:55 AM »
I was wondering if Canada has any statues and if so, are they still standing?  Did Canada have any noteworthy folks with statues that have been now deemed imperfect?  Did they call out the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to guard the statues on Canada Day or are they just relying on a community betterment group for protection?  I'm sure there's a garden club somewhere that would be willing to bring their rakes and hoes to quell any uprising. 

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The Big Show / Re: Weston Ready Go
« on: June 12, 2020, 09:47:45 AM »
I would bet money there's no Lincoln Red in Ready Go.  There's none in his listed pedigree, either.  Too bad Bill Marsden isn't around any more.  He could tell you all about him.   

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The Big Show / Re: Weston Ready Go
« on: June 11, 2020, 08:51:48 AM »
Weston Ready Go or just plain Ready Go?  There is some Ready Go semen out there, but's it's going to be hard to find and even more difficult to purchase I would imagine.

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The Big Show / Iowa State Fair
« on: June 10, 2020, 03:50:17 PM »
Just heard the Iowa State Fair has been cancelled.  Over 50 years in a row showing there, never dreamt it would end this way. 

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The Big Show / optimum cow size
« on: June 01, 2020, 03:41:21 PM »
A frequently discussed, and sometimes heated debate on this site is optimum cow size.  Check out the 5-23-20 issue of Iowa Farmer Today for an interesting piece on the subject.  According to Kansas State Research and Extension beef specialist Bob Weaber, "Our results showed that in eastern Kansas, a 1,300 to 1,400 pound cow was optimum in that she was able to produce a moderate to high level of milk in an environment where all her nutritional requirements were met."  There was some dialog on the effects of increasing cow size and the amount of beef produced per acre.  The article pointed out several times that there was no one size fits all in regards to cow size.  The study listed 7 main factors to consider.  Interesting reading.  My interpretation is that if it works for you, go for it. 

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It has been more of a delight than I can tell you to have the grand kids home the past few months.  They absolutely love to be around the cattle, they remind me of myself when I was a kid.  They can tell you anything you want to know and are taking a real interest in planning this spring's matings.  Even on my cows!  We had a handful of early calves and I can tell you those kids already have them all but ready for the fair.  A friend of mine stopped by last weekend to look at the calves and I just sent the kids out with him and stayed out of the way.  The only problem is the two best heifer calves in the pen were theirs and they won't sell them!  They've always shown great interest and helped immensely with everything around the farm, but I will tell you this spring has been an absolute joy.  For all of us.  Now, we heard yesterday that the high school baseball season in Iowa will most likely go on.  They love baseball, as do I.  I guess I'll have to go back to sharing them, but that's okay.  As far as the club calf industry or showing cattle in general, this may be a brief setback.  But the cattle business gets in your blood.  Whether you show them, raise them, feed them out, it doesn't matter.  If there's a way to keep a cow on your place, you'll do it.     

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Regarding the Iowa State Fair, I kind of got the impression that if a limited opening is not profitable for the Iowa State Fair, then it probably won't happen.  In the words of one fair board member, "We make no money south of Grand Avenue."  Meaning the grandstand and midway pay the bills, not the hog and cattle shows.  It would be simple to hold the cattle shows on a one day show and go basis.  That's not going to make the fair any money, so it probably won't happen.  Maybe state breed associations could hold their own version of the "state fair show" at a different location.  Years ago I judged several Minnesota State Shorthorn Shows held annually at  different county fair sites in addition to the Minnesota State Fair.  Their state show at that time was fairly large.  All this brings into question the big shows.  Will NAILE be held?  American Royal?  Denver?   

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Iowa State Fair board secretary was interviewed on the radio yesterday afternoon.  From what I could gather, nothing has been decided for sure, but if the fair is held, there will be some adaptations.  What they might be, I don't know. 

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If low numbers in a show deserve an *, then there should have been one on many of the shows for the past 10-20 years.  Pick up the old magazines and scan the various state fair show reports.  For most of them, numbers don't come close to comparing to what there used to be.  I would think the main reason is that at least in our area of the country, nobody has ANY livestock any more.  In the 12 miles from our farm to I-35 I can tell you what each and every farmstead had for livestock 30 years ago.  Now, other than our cattle, there are only 2 llamas at one place.  Period.  In our square mile, 4 farmsteads no longer exist.  We do have a significant number of "neighbors" that farm well over 10,000 acres, though.  30 years ago a huge number of the loans processed at our bank were for farmers buying feeder pigs to feed out.  Now, I would bet you would have to drive 20 miles any direction to find 1 person taking care of their own hogs.  Tons of corporate owned confinement hog facilities, though.  Most of them built close to anyone's home other than the "owner."  I do enjoy it when folks of my generation stop by our stalls at the fair and remember when with me. 

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I know of at least one county fair in Iowa that has been cancelled.  I believe there will be more.  A lot of it depends on the success/failure of the gradual reopening in the state.  Junior Shorthorn Nationals are still on as of yesterday.  We've shown at the state fair 50+ years in a row and would hate to miss it because of a Chinese virus.  We'll wait and see what happens, but I will be surprised if it is held without major changes. 

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The Big Show / Re: Got Milk?
« on: May 07, 2020, 09:39:08 AM »
You are correct, most Shorthorn cows are good milkers, docile, and generally good mother cows.  Some do milk themselves into a bag of bones compared to the old Hereford cows that starved their calves, but stayed in good shape themselves.  I think where some Shorthorn breeders ran into trouble was through the use of some of the more club calf genetics.  I won't name names, but generally the TH and PHA carrier's offspring did a number on milking ability, at least the ones I used years ago. 

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The Big Show / Re: Got Milk?
« on: May 05, 2020, 03:12:09 PM »
We used the Leader line 50 years ago and generally found them to be less than average milkers.  I have again used some Leader 9th genetics over the past 6 or 7 years and found them to be adequate in milk production, most likely due to the Muridale dam of the Leader 9th son I used.  Judging by the performance of the calves sired by the same bull, the Diamond Zulu daughters I have must milk a little better than the Leader 9th granddaughters, though.  I have had good luck with Deerpark Leader 18th genetics and some dual purpose breeding.  Probably as good a breeding bull that I've used from a standpoint of milking ability/calf performance was a son of MGRR Boris (Rodeo Drive) out of Bonnie Ruberta (Deerpark Leader 18th X Dual purpose).  I found the mention of Austin City Limit interesting due to his combination of Rodeo Drive and dual purpose genetics.  I have several members of the Ann family in the herd today and they all descend from the Boris son I used.  They have quality udders and consistently raise above average performing calves of good type.  Another top producer of females over the years for us was a 7/8 bull combining Lefty 83rd and believe it or not, Black Power Play.  I still have some of this line, although they seemed to unfortunately produce more bulls than females.  I just sold the last grand daughter of this bull two or three years ago at 17 years of age.  I think some of the Canadian breeders that have stayed away from strictly show type cattle would be a good source of female genetics and you should be able to find some that are pleasing to look at, too.     

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