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The Big Show / Re: Texas State Shorthorn sale
« on: April 19, 2012, 12:37:19 PM »

Isn't Improver the sire of Improver 3rd???

Not according to DNA!

The Big Show / Re: Texas State Shorthorn sale
« on: April 19, 2012, 11:44:53 AM »
There's a substantial number of Shorthorn breeders than have stock going back to the Improver lines.  I just did a search and found a large number of the prominent breeders are still using animals with Improver.  Bowman, Saskvalley (Huberdale Mastercharge), Shome, Duis, WHR, Steinke, Matlock(Paramount14P), Handu, Elbee, Vaith Cattle, Jordan Acres... and thats just the breeder that have spent some loot on ad words and are now on the first 2 pages of google.   So all these breeders 'potentially' have th running through their herds?

Deerpark Improver 3rd, and Deerpark Improver have no genetic link. Only thing in common, they were both exported from Ireland and share space on a "Paper". Sadly we probably won't ever know how the Irish cattle fit together. 

The Big Show / Re: Elbee Throwback calves
« on: April 05, 2012, 09:14:04 AM »
Will.  Glad to hear Trowback could fit into the "calving ease" category.

The Big Show / Re: Needing horse showing adive
« on: September 26, 2010, 01:55:04 PM »
I've been involved with our county's horse show for years. The one thing I can assure you is this; a professionally trained horse is NOT a sure winner!

 The more time you can set aside practicing one-on-one with, and exposing your horse to the events you mentioned the better your success.

Horses are highly sensitive to the unfamiliar  so get out as much as possible and de-sensitise the show experience. 

The Big Show / Re: Shorthorn Question
« on: September 20, 2010, 11:09:36 AM »
Show cattle aside.

Market price -minus .20 Cents per lb. = 0 Shorthorn appearing cattle!

My suburbanite customer doesn't know the difference between birth weight EPD, and EPT preg test! They don't even know what a Shorthorn is, now Longhorn or Durham, yes.

CAB: Greatest marketing strategy ever invented.

 CAB is my friend! Consumers are looking for an alternative to (over priced) CAB, or the gray matter stink meat at Piggly-Wiggly. They will pay 3-bucks-a pound for 150 lbs. (1 quarter beef) for their freezer. As long as it's a premium product that fits their budget. Oh-my, a niche for Shorthorns!

My biggest concern is losing the private (mom and pop) processing plants. At that point the breed, as a co-op, will have to take this niche national. I believe that's allready been dreamed of! (right Nik?)

If all this falls apart before I'm too old to care. I'll have a herd of black hided Shorthorns so fast your head will spin. 

One consolation on these extremely large loineyes is, that consumers buying freezer beef directly off the farm prefer a leaner and higher ratio of the more expensive cuts. ie; @ $2.40 per lb. for a whole or half why wouldn't you want 20 inch eyes?

I called 8 local sale barns to find out the discount or premium on roan calves. The range was from a 15-45 cent discount. Even if the quality was similiar to that of a black calf.
I called 3 feed lots. None preferred roan cattle. One flat refused them, one said the daily rate would be more due to "feeding issues".
I also called 2 shortie breeders, and both said their market was to other shortie breeders or to juniors. A few sold solid red bulls to commercial cattleman, but one commented that he had sold a red bull last year that threw some roans the the buyer was not happy at all.

CAB - While I agree with your statement on carcass size, I also can relate to the family trying to buy beef for supper. If you have a 15 square inch ribeye, that is thick cut (1 1/4 inches), and ribeye is $.8.50 a pound, you are going to spend roughly $18-20 PER STEAK.  Yes, you can cut the steak into pieces, but lets face it, when someone wants a steak, they want their own steak. At the same time, a 8 square inch ribeye cut the same thickness will only be $8 per steak.  So while it is fun to brag about having a steer cut a 15-20 inch ribeye, it doesn't neccessarily translate into a good thing at the super market. 

JIT - While I like the looks of your bull, he would never be used in the commercial cattle herds around here simply due to his color. That is just the facts. He may offer the world to the industry, but unless he throws solid colored calves, he is worthless to the commecial cattleman around her. I hope he works out for you in Canada.

And that friends, is the world I live in, real or make-believe!

Shorthorns, the hobby breed!

Then this weekend I had a clubbie guy come through, he says "To bad you don't have any roans."

Yah, too bad !

Grant, I guess we need to schedule you to come preach at our local sale barn here someday. Last group of roan steers I took had to be no-saled (lucky I was there). Auctioneer started them at .40 cents (that's without a 1 in front of it).


Cotullaguy, I've watched and re-watched the original posted video (with the sound off). Someone will have to point out to me the extra bombs. If your talking about the drawing, I could have done that in 9th grade drafting class.

With all due respect I would love to be convinced, without hearsay. And I do believe McVeigh's bomb could have done that much damage. Just like I believe a thousand gallons of airplane fuel could meltdown the Trade towers.

Respectfully, I do believe in conspiracies, just not this one.

The Big Show / Re: Oklahoma City Bombing-New Video
« on: May 16, 2010, 11:55:40 AM »
I watched the video, here's my theory, same as it was 10 years ago.

McVeigh was a phsyco dumbass! ! ! He had no idea how well his bomb would work! ! !   He watched his bomb go off, **** himself, then got caught speeding on I-70. End of story.

Now, Cotullaguy, turn off the sound on your computer and watch the video again,            nothing!

Conspiracy's are out there, but they are much more subtle and effective than OKC and 9-11, and I'm afraid never in the news.

With eyesight like mine,  focusing is a lot better from a distance.


The Big Show / Re: Roan cows & Roan horses
« on: May 12, 2010, 10:21:44 AM »
What do Shorthorn cows and logchains have in common?


i've been cutting my own hair with scissors and a comb or brush for about 30 years.

That explains so much! !  Me too minus the comb and brush <cowboy>

I have a nice picture of Laidlaw, and had the opportunity to see him. Very impressive beasty by today's standards!

I'm always keeping my eyes open to better marketing strategies for Shortys, obviously statictics are not enough. We have to deceive the "eye", I believe Lincoln Reds are capable of that deception.

I would consider using a Lincoln Red bull if he was not Shorthorn Plus status. I believe it would be a better deal than the Red aNGUS thing.

The Lincoln Reds I saw 30+ years ago at Pleasant Valley in Brandon Iowa were the real deal. They were just the wrong side of the road for the 70's-80's trend.

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