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The Big Show / Re: Clean bull to bring down frame
« on: April 24, 2014, 08:55:29 AM »
I would also throw in there Amen. We had a real nice heifer out of her but she was on the short side. Out of a short cow too though. But we really like her she is real deep and soggy.

The Big Show / need advice on calf after hard pull
« on: March 11, 2014, 11:25:48 PM »
So we had a heifer calf out of a first time heifer. She was a big calf...too big but she's here. Cow had trouble getting up at first but gets up now still doesn't move perfectly occasionally falls....definitely some nerve damage. But the calf is strong but can't seem to stand by itself. We can stand it up n we got it to nurse. But it seems it rear left pastern is tight or contracted n it can't control it real well. There might be more damage than I know. Any advice? For either?

The Big Show / Need some SP suggestions
« on: January 18, 2014, 09:51:46 AM »
So we get our feed from a long ways away because we can get it real cheap. We usually save some of the old feed to mix with the new to get them started on the new batch. This time we ran out and had not an ounce left when we got the new stuff here. To top it off they had to change and ingredient. We had been getting DDG and corn gluten and they didn't have corn gluten this time so they used cracked corn which is fine. So now one of my daughters 3 calves (heifer and 2 steers) won't eat it. For 3 meals now he has flat out left it. We took his hay away. Should we wait him out or what does anyone suggest. I bought some cottonseed meal to put just a tiny scoop in to maybe give a sweeter taste/aroma (the DDG can have a bitter smell) the other 2 seem to like it. But this one if having none of it. I know it was poor planning to run out and then to have to change an ingredient but im here now so what do you guys suggest?

The Big Show / Re: County Show = Popularity Contest
« on: January 14, 2014, 11:59:36 AM »
I am sorry that some people on here were rude and insulting to you! That is never the right approach.

I am sorry you have had a bad experience and I hope you can find the positives in it.

I am very familiar with what you have experienced our sale is very much the same. My 10 yr old daughter did very well with her steer last year. She had a class winner, but inquired why her calf did not bring as much $ as some placing below her. It was exactly as some on here have mentioned there are families that we actually really like that do a lot of business within the community and buyers were trying to thank them for their patronage. So their animals brought a little more even though they placed lower. It was a lesson but she doesnt really worry about the $ much, she loves the "Bright Lights", she's a Ham.

Anyway what worries me is the idea of trying to steer kids away from the program. It really is inherently good. I think you should reconsider this.

And as far as the $ matching the placing, I am really not for that either. Because not only does that put a limit on the "affluent" but also on the not so well off that want to bust their butt and solicit buyers. Those kids should be able to work as hard as they want and raise as much $ as they can. I guess I still believe in the capitalist model!

Also thank you to BTDT and SandyB, those were some good comments on the other page I enjoyed reading them!

Those are my 2 cents!

The Big Show / Re: Interesting Article
« on: November 15, 2013, 03:15:57 PM »
WOW! I did not see this in the Stockman.

I was actually at this show and followed the judges picks all day until that selection. I would not have even put that calf third in that class. I know that this stuff happens all the time, but I have NEVER seen it so blatant. Everyone was speechless.

I agree, kudos (however you spell it) to those bringing this to light and talking about it. I thought it was going to just be swept under the rug, and I know I was guilty of letting it happen too.

The Big Show / Re: "Slow and Steady" or "Show him who's boss"?
« on: November 14, 2013, 01:52:14 PM »
I am curious to see what works for you! Keep us updated.

We have been mainly tying ours and then slowly just trying to pet on them and brush on them. Then as we let them go try to get a few steps out of them and then let them go. They have seemed to gentle down pretty quick that way. I have never had to leave one tied but I think it might have worked a few years ago we had a bull calf we wanted to show but we could never get him gentled down and we gave up on him.

The Big Show / Re: Judge my steer
« on: November 06, 2013, 12:27:16 PM »
I just wanted to say you are doing a good job. It was very smart to put your steer on here and get feedback. That is really using your head. And it takes some courage to put your steer on here to potentially get critiqued. But that is how you learn. Good job and good luck! (clapping)

The Big Show / Re: opinions on shorthorn cross steer
« on: September 05, 2013, 02:42:45 PM »
I know you are dissapointed, but thats really not too bad (2nd Place)! Anyway, you should be proud of yourself for sticking with it. I have been a part of a few of those types of deals where the family just gives up. You kept pushing and thats what matters.

The Big Show / Re: Should we be concerned about the loin on this calf?
« on: September 04, 2013, 10:21:57 PM »
Oh and yeah he moves pretty free I would say. And yes this is something that just kind of came up. I would say in the last few weeks to month and the calf is about 6 months old.

The Big Show / Re: Should we be concerned about the loin on this calf?
« on: September 04, 2013, 10:11:02 PM »
Ok cool thanks!

The Big Show / Re: Should we be concerned about the loin on this calf?
« on: September 04, 2013, 09:56:30 PM »
Ok thanks for the input! I think the bull we were using was putting that in some of his calves! We kept a few heifers out of him and one of them started to develop the same deal. We also bought a Vegas x Dr who heifer that is 2 now and had a nice heifer but she kind of has a "roached" loin. From your experience is that something these cows/heifers are going to pass on?

The Big Show / Re: Should we be concerned about the loin on this calf?
« on: September 04, 2013, 05:33:54 PM »
Sorry some of the pics transferred upside down!

The Big Show / Should we be concerned about the loin on this calf?
« on: September 04, 2013, 05:32:42 PM »
So we raise our own calves to show at county fair. We are trying to pick my daughters show steer for next year.  We like this calf for a lot of reasons but he seems to have a hump in his loin. If it is a structural thing that is going to lead him to walking bad I would rather stay away from it but if it is just an un level top line my daughter could probably show him pretty well so that would not be a problem. What are you all's thoughts?

The Big Show / Re: Has anyone used Vitaferm?
« on: September 04, 2013, 05:10:15 PM »
We really had good results with vitaferm show champ. When we started feeding we noticed improvement in hair and apetite in both our steer and heifer.

The Big Show / Re: Is this what a grand champion should look like
« on: September 04, 2013, 05:08:15 PM »
Thats awesome! Goes to show a truly good show steer can hang a good carcass also! <beer>

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