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The Big Show / Re: Your thoughts on some Shorthorn AI Sires
« on: August 01, 2020, 11:22:15 AM »
For me, 127x stands out from your list as being different than the rest. I would consider him to be more of the growth bull in the bunch. A pair of his sons here were very well accepted by commercial angus breeders. I retained a son of his to use on heifers and then sold him into a herd to lower their bws and he's working well while looking the part and slicking off fast.

After trying a few other bulls, I bought another cane on 127x to use on some 4 frames and a few who are way too close to 3s for me.

The Big Show / Re: Myostatin gene
« on: July 01, 2020, 04:17:53 PM »
Thanks. If they are more than carriers.....they could be double muscled?

I guess it depends on how you define "double muscled". I've yet to see a shorthorn present as double muscled in the way we tend to think of the Belgian Blue cattle being double muscled. They've taken the presentation to the extreme. You can see some Shorthorn x Limousin calves that look pretty close to it though with huge shoulders, a tight middle, and well defined muscles.

The Big Show / Re: Myostatin gene
« on: June 29, 2020, 03:44:23 PM »
So on Learjet......could he be a carrier on both sides?

If he is out of who his pedigree says he is, they are both carriers. There's also the possibility that they are more than carriers.

The Big Show / Re: Interview with Tim ohlde
« on: June 20, 2020, 07:02:05 PM »
Are there any pictures of POLY D Cumberland 725 floating around out there?  I found this picture of a daughter of hers.

The Big Show / Re: Interview with Tim ohlde
« on: June 18, 2020, 09:29:14 PM »
This bull was out of leader 21 and I believe a cow 2 or 3 generations before JPJ's mother, so I guess it'd be most of the good stuff and none of the cross breeding. Have had a few crossbred AI calves by him over the years that were just ok, but never a heifer. They did grow much better than any of the JPJ stuff I've had.

The Big Show / Re: Interview with Tim ohlde
« on: June 18, 2020, 02:49:52 PM »
I still have a couple canes of semen from a roan bull Ohlde raised out of one of the Cal Poly Cumberland cows he bought back. They had bred and flushed that cow to some interesting bulls. Ohlde then chose to make pairings that I'd consider to be much more complementary.

It's not a full blown least cost analyst, but the OSU ration calculator is free and easier to use than the higher end programs. It's about 2/3rds the way down the list.


It is not in the package deal, but you can add it on the ASA test sheet as test letter L for $27 just like the Myostatin test is letter K for $27.

See if this link works....

The Big Show / Re: What's your vision of a Grand Champion Steer
« on: April 28, 2020, 05:48:42 PM »
I don't know how you even put it in words.

Every few years you round the corner of the staging area in KC and run into one that just makes you say, "my god". They have everything, and can't really be described. Your mind and body actually feels what your eyes are seeing.

It doesn't even matter what the judge rambles about or if he even actually selects the calf. Everybody who knows, just knows.

The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: April 21, 2020, 03:16:51 PM »
Just curious why you said you wouldn't dare keep any of the 8161 calves??

I don't measure my commercial calves, but they were at least two frame scores bigger than the purebred calves I did measure and lacked depth. Much more terminal in appearance muscling wise than what I want to see in potential replacement females. I would assume they went on to make good feedlot calves though.

The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: April 20, 2020, 08:37:10 PM »
Where did you find frame 3 and 4 cattle?  I am not doubting you I would like to know where to find them.

Have you tried Cherry Fillet? If you already have fairly moderate cows he will definitely keep the legs from getting too long on them.

There was multiple bulls in the 4s and at least 8-10 below a 4.5 in the PVF and Byland sale.

The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: April 20, 2020, 09:45:33 AM »
Marquis 127x and Tradition 106t have both left the frame in them for me. Patent 8161 has put some frame on a few weaned calves for me, but I didn't dare keep any of them to know just how big they were going to get. I assume Crooked Post Stockman would at least leave the frame in a cow if not add to most, but I have yet to try him.

There's several bulls on the show side that can do the same if that's your goal, but several of them have a few issues to work around.

The Big Show / Re: "Meant to Be" Bull and "Duello Icon" Bull
« on: April 15, 2020, 06:31:24 PM »
I'd make sure the Simm bull you use on the Primo daughters to make your factory cows carries some milk.

The Big Show / Re: Shorthorn Semen Code - Columbus?
« on: April 04, 2020, 08:54:11 AM »
Mine came from multiple sources and all of it has COL on it.

The Big Show / Re: Let's see some new calves!
« on: March 30, 2020, 08:32:56 PM »
It's been so muddy lately that things are looking pretty rough.

1. The first calf out of my Dividend x Improver/Margie924 bull and a Taylor Made cow.
2. Cherry Fillet x Leader 18th.
3. Hot Commodity x Mandalong Super Flag.
4. Colburn Creed x I80/Shorthorn.
Is the creed a bull or hfr?

All of my Creed's were bulls, unfortunately.

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