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Goat/Lamb Chat / Goat genetics
« on: August 18, 2021, 08:15:25 PM »
Sort of just a general question. Where in the country do the best goat families come from? I come from a show cattle background but mg kids chose meat goats. I bought a small starter heard a few years back. We started our our first year dead last. Here it is our 5th year and we are placing 3rd or better with our wheathers and does for the last 2 years. I want to push for the next level as my kids are really having fun and they are natural competitors and hard workers. Im proud of what we have accomplished in a short amount of time. My background in show cattle has really helped transition. I competed all over the country and hung many banners in the show cattle industry without spending tens of thousands on a steer. I remember how awesome its felt to see my hard work pay off and i want to try to help my kids do the same.

I have seen and heard a lot about Oklahoma but im not real familiar with the goat families and they families producing the most desired genetics. I put together a great group of does and I sort of fell into a nice whether bred buck that came from a line of ennobled parents and grandparents. We use to AI our cattle so im going to do a little playing with that one a few select does.

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The Big Show / Feed ration too dry?
« on: September 07, 2018, 02:58:42 PM »
So ive been getting a custom ration that is a modified AAOK recipe with sure champ mixed in for the ameferm and vitamins and minerals. 

I havnt talk with my grain guy yet about this but it seemed like the ration was coming out very dry and dusty. I had a a couple ton come out with a nice consistency but it was dry and dusty most of the time. I also noticed every now and then I would find a big clump of what seemed to be crumbled molasses. It had a great damp texture i would just crumble it back into the bin and mix it up.

The cattle did eat the feed with no issues but I've been used to feeding different show feeds and just started with the custom ration. With all of the show feeds they seem to have that consistency of a little moisture.

Without sounding dumb. Does anyone have any ideas of why it would be dry and dusty and if so a way to fix that?

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The Big Show / Cool room question
« on: August 15, 2018, 08:53:11 AM »
I know there are many posts about this topic and ive read many but dont feel i got the answers i was looking for. I have a show stall in my barn that I have been putting the show cattle in. It has room for 3-4 head but we only put 2 in it at max. The ceiling is sealed already and dupe insulated. We use multiple fans and misters in there now. The floor is concrete, bedding is cedar fiber. The walls are framed and ready to be finished. My questions are

1) what is the best material for finishing the interior and exterior walls and where to source them from.

2) what would be the best route for the a.c. system, with only having 2 head would a nice window unit work?

3) how much outside air needs to be pumped in with a ventilation fan and at what intervals.

4) I've read a lot about ammonia issues. Other than cleaning the stall twice daily and keepimg the pee out, what are some waus people help keep the ammonia out and the smell down?

Thank you in advance for your help.

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The Big Show / Genetics / Sire Questions
« on: January 22, 2018, 09:21:43 AM »
Ok so here is the deal. I have 2 heifers I'm trying to decide on a  bull for and while looking up their genetics it seems to be limiting my options.

Heifer #1
Sire- Frisky Whisky
Dam- Believe in me x pale face / who made who

Heifer #2
Sire - Front and Center
Dam - Believe in me / Total Solution

MY issue - When i search the sires and dams genetics it seems some where down the line they all have father or grandfather blood lines with the majority of the bulls im looking at.

Thees genetics are in both heifers -Walk this way, heat wave, dream catcher, who made who, irish whiskey, ali, ect.   When searching the sires of the bulls im looking at using they all seem to lead back to each other in some way or another. 

Where is the break in the bloodlines to give the ability to use a bull or not. I dont want to be inbreeding or anything like that.

Suggestions on bulls or info to help me with the rules for breeding without crossing the genetics to close.

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The Big Show / Protein question
« on: January 07, 2018, 06:03:11 PM »
Recommendations to add extra protein to the Auckland feed ration?I'm using the ration and top dressing sure champ for the minerals and ameferm.  Would like to see maybe 2% more protein added to the ration.

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The Big Show / Peace pelletS
« on: November 07, 2017, 05:33:09 PM »
I have a heifer that gets super stressed when she's in the chute or when her stall buddy isn't right next to her.  She's always looking behind her and walks sideways alot.  She does the lil head wobble sometimes too.

I've bee looking into daily  calming agents.  The one that keeps popping up is Sullivan peace pellets.  Has anyone had good results with them?

Also considering meletonin.  What are your thoughts on the best solution  other than working with her?  She gets worked everyday and seems to like some people better than others.

She will be my nephews project.  I'm not wanting to use it forever.  My thoughts were to implement it for a couple months and continue to work  her regularly until she breaks the bad habits. She isn't a bad heifer.  She doesn't kick or try to drag ya around or anything like that  just seems to have some trust issues and doesn't like commotion.  My hopes are that the peace pellets will help take that little edge off and speed up the process of gaining trust with others.

Any thoughts optionsand experiences are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Jp

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The Big Show / Cedar fiber question
« on: October 18, 2017, 09:28:49 AM »
I know most use their straw and manure to fertilize fields. I heard that cedar fiber is bad for composite fertilizer due to its resistance to degrading.

That being said, what do you guys do with your giant pile of cedar fiber and manure?

Thank you for your responses and important.

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The Big Show / Getting back in the game. Just have a couple questions
« on: October 07, 2017, 07:05:00 PM »
I showed all over the east coast during my childhood and teens. Here recently my 2 nephews have showed at our county fair and now have a lot of interest in the real clubby show game. I just recently got the barn back to club calf ready and we are going to start with a couple great heifers and a steer with buying some good bred heifers with genetics to start a breed schedule like we did before and produce our own competitors. Here are the questions I have.

Best daily hair care product? I have used kleen sheen in the past but I have read a little about the green stuff and was wondering what your opinions are on these products? Which do you prefer and why?

Supplements. I will be running a show feed for the clubbers. Our local gain store has a show feed that is made by a pretty prominent show family in my area. Its called Odyssey. I used it with pretty good success. A family friend that showed with use used Showrite and it seemed to do pretty well too.

What show feed to you prefer and why?

Hair Supplements? What do you prefer and why?

Muscle or building supplements?  Anyone use Muscle or fat builders?

Thank you in advance for your responses.
Just hoping to see what is new out there and how to produce better projects for these kids that want to compete!

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