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The Big Show / cow/calf not thriving....suggestions welcome
« on: July 22, 2019, 02:42:47 PM »
Hey folks.  This has been a good source of "i didn't think of that" ideas
We have a 5 yr old herf cow with a 2 month old heifer on side.  Let me preface this with we are small breeder and raised the mother and this is her 3rd calf.  We take really good care of our small herd as they were all show girls at one time and my cattle friend laughs that if he needs one in better condition he will bring it here.  The calf has been on and off with scours from birth.  Treated with some antibiotics since it ran a fever right after birth.  Environment is clean.  Navel treated at birth with iodine.  Clean bedding.  Clean water and out on pasture.  Fecal study showed no parasites.  Blood work has been normal.  Mother is a bit thin(no ribs showing but topline is pronounced) which is not the norm around here.  Current on worming.  Calf is still loose.  Vet has been consulted along the way and said the stool may be runny for a long time.  Calf is smaller as well and perky but just not as fleshy as the heifer born(same bull) within a day of her on another cow. They are now in the calf barn with fans running, all the hay she wants and is getting about 10lbs/day of a 12% beef mix from the mill. Milk production is about a 6 on a 10 scale. 
We are at a loss as to what or if there is anything we missed. Our ladies usually are a 9 or 10 just on our pasture with mineral and hay to boot!
Welcome to all constructive thoughts on anything we may have missed. TIA

ETA:  Thank you for the suggestions.  We have had her looked at further and it has been determined it is a heart issue.  I appears her right side eye has been affected.  Her jugular veins are enlarged.  Blood is not flowing well and she won't be long for the world.  Odd case the vet said.

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The Big Show / Genetics Gurus Question for you
« on: June 05, 2016, 08:24:46 AM »
I know a little about genetics
Trying to piece together the offspring genetics of a calf  Now I know the color of it and it's full sibling.  Thought I would ask you color gurus what you think I may get and see what you all say

Cow is By Alias out of a PB Angus  Cow has grey skin/nose and is not pure white but a shade of white/silver
Above cow is bred to Brilliance-PB Angus bull

What so you think we got in color-wise in the last two calves?

Cows previous calves have been
crossbred peach bull(charolais influence) and we got a smokey bull
Crossbred peach bull (above bull) and we got a red heifer
crossbred black bull and we got a black bull




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The hormone beef thread made me think of this I saw on another page.  Please share.  It is a very very simple way to visually share what hormones are in what.  Hard to dispute this picture.  Wonder how much cabbage everyone ingested on St. Patty's Day?  read it and see  ;)

http://nefb.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/whats-the-beef-mms-and-hormones/

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The Big Show / Showmanship-class deal breakers
« on: December 08, 2013, 01:03:16 PM »
Would like to hear from people who are accomplished in showmanship and those that have judged.  Was approached by a friend at HBC to try and help her understand how a child made it further than her child did when it was the ringman that ended up holding the calf.  I had no answers for her.  I also saw in the Senior pen an exhibitor make it back that their calf not once but twice got loose requiring the judge, the exhibitor and 4 others to catch the calf. The calf then broke away again causing another wreck for another exhibitor.  the exhibitor was flung to the ground both times.  I am not picking on that person just letting you all know what I saw.  I also saw the judge wait on a person that is very recognizable try repeatedly to set up her calf while three other showman in that class had their calves set, broke and attentive to where the judge was. 

I am interested in what is a deal-breaker?  calves getting away from an exhibitor?  excessive circles?  a busy stick?  Interested in what you all have to say. 

I will begin with what I feel is a great showman.  A broke calf.  One that walks softly in your hand and doesn't pull.  A calf that will allow you to turn around and walk into your set.  A calf that will allow the exhibitor to raise the head and the calf with leave it there.  A showman that is well dressed with clean shirt, tidy hair and confidence.  NOt  over confidence but that quiet collected stance with smooth transitions.  Using the corners to allow for more room to walk .  a gentle stick.  One that is aware of the judge at all times while still keeping the calf correct. 
My deal-breakers are : calf getting loose from the exhibitor.  The exhibitor hitting the dirt.  Not being aware of the judge.  Working way to hard to get a calf set when the judge is trying to view the calf.  Not being ready to show to the judge when the judge walks the line.  A messy appearance with hair in face or over the number.
A lot of circles that make it seem you are so nervous.
Enlighten me :)

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The Big Show / Please share, You might know these men
« on: November 22, 2013, 10:01:48 AM »
This came through on FB and it is worth a look and a share.  Kudos to these men for doing it and for the message it conveys.  Let's see if it can get as many shares as the negative ones that the activists share to shock people.  This is so much better!

http://www.lautnerfarms.com/capstone-video-presentation-focusing-on-livestock/

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The Big Show / thank you to a generous young lady from Laramie, WY
« on: November 05, 2013, 06:00:55 AM »
I don't know her but have been following the SD blizzard disaster.  I have read the other posts from first to last post on SP.  This young woman gets a pat on her back as do all who have stepped up to help these ranchers in their time of need.  Yes we have government intervention on some disasters but what we all need to remember is it US that helps the guy who needs it.  Relying on each other is what makes those helping and recovering so extraordinary.  I have the deepest respect for those that will find a way to remain part of the landscape of SD and for those that have helped them along the way. 

So thank you to Jolie Wetstein from Laramie Wyoming. Jolie goes to Rock River School and is a proud member of Rock Creek FFA.

By Heifers for S. Dakota

The story of one recent donor -

 A high school sophomore who is heavily involved in 4-H and FFA overheard the discussion between one of our organizers and a few who have pledged livestock. She approached the organizer the next day and stated that she wanted to donate her Supreme Heifer from the local county program. When she was informed that her heifer project would then be incomplete - she looked right at our organizer and said she thought the ranchers in South Dakota needed her more than the local heifer program did. She said that she has an uncle that lives up there who was affected and she wanted to make a difference.

 God Bless you young lady, you will make a difference.

She will not receive an incomplete on the project as they are all so proud of her.

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The Big Show / For you farmer enjoyment
« on: December 05, 2012, 11:28:27 AM »
Friend sent me this.  Best one our there!  Farm boys rock!

Farmer Style (Gangnam Style Parody)

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The Big Show / Cow funnies. Will make you giggle :)
« on: November 10, 2012, 08:05:15 AM »
DEMOCRAT
You have two cows ,,, Your neighbor has none ... You feel guilty for being successful ...
Beyonce sings for you.

REPUBLICAN
You have two cows ... Your neighbor has none ... So?

SOCIALISM
You have two cows ... The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor ...
You form a cooperative to advise your neighbor on how to manage his cow.

COMMUNISM
You have two cows ... The government seizes both and provides you with milk ...
You wait in line for hours to get it ... It is expensive and sour.

FASCISM

You have two cows ... The government takes both and sells you the milk.

NAZI-ISM

You have two cows ... The government takes both and shoots you.

AMERICAN CAPITALISM
You have two cows ... You sell one and buy a bull ... You build a herd of cows.

AMERICAN BUREAUCRACY
You have two cows ... The government pays you not to milk them ... Then the government takes them both ... They shoot one, milk the other, and pour the milk down the drain ... Then they require you to fill out a form to explain why the two cows are missing.

AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows ... You sell one cow, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the second cow ... You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows ... You are surprised when one cow drops dead ... You spin a publicity release to the security analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses ... Your stock goes up.

FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows ... You go on strike because you want three cows ... You go to lunch and drink wine ... Life is beautiful.

JAPANESE CORPORATION
You have two cows ... You redesign them so they are 1/10 the size of an ordinary cow and produce 20 times the milk ...They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains ... Most are at the top of their class at cow school.

GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows ... You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and run 100 miles per hour ... Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.

ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows ... But you don't know where they are ,,, During your search, you see a beautiful woman ... You break for lunch ... Life is beautiful.


RUSSIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows ... You have some vodka ... You count your cows and learn you have 5 cows ... You have some vodka ... You count them again and learn you have 42 cows ,,,
The Russian Mafia shows up and takes whatever cows you have.

TALIBAN CORPORATION
You have all the cows in Afghanistan ...Which are two ... You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts ... You kill them and claim a U.S. bomb blew them up while they were in the hospital.

IRAQI CORPORATION
You have two cows ... They go into hiding ...They produce television tapes of their mooing.

POLISH CORPORATION
You have two bulls ... Your employees are maimed and killed on a regular basis attempting to milk them.

FLORIDA CORPORATION
You have two cows - a black cow and a brown cow ...Everyone votes for the best cow ...
Some of the people who like the brown cow best, vote for the black cow ... Some people vote for both ... Some people vote for neither ... Some people can't figure out how to vote at all ... Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which is the best cow.

My favorite cow joke:

A fellow was driving down a country road when his car sputtered to a complete stop next to a field filled with cows. The driver lifted the hood of his car to find out the cause. A cow standing inside the fenced field calmly said to him, I believe its your generator.

The man almost fainted. He ran to the farmhouse nearby and excitedly knocked on the door.

One of your cows just gave me advice about my car,he shouted waving his arms back toward the field.

The farmer nonchalantly leaned out beyond the door to glance down the field. The white cow with the two big black spots on her?the farmer asked slowly.

Yes, yes, thats the one,the man replied.

Oh, well, thats Bessie,the farmer said, turning back to the excited man. Just dont pay any attention to her. She doesnt know the first thing about cars.

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Hello all.  This is directed to any of you cow lovers in the Atlanta area.  A young man is being transferred to Shepard Hospital to rehab from a terrible accident in May  This is his story

Banks Ready was in horrible car accident. He was airlifted to The Med in Memphis.  Both his arms are broken in several places, his right elbow is crushed, and his right femur is broken as well. Also, he has a tear in carotid artery. He underwent surgery to flush and clean out the wounds and temporaily fix his injuries.  He still has not woken up.  Since then, they have had to put a probe in his brain to keep a read on the pressure to make sure there is no swelling.  Please continue to keep Banks and our family in your thoughts and prayers as he has a very long, hard road ahead of him.

It has taken him some time to wake up and be stable enough to fly to Shepard where he will continue his rehab care.  If it is like most rehabs he will have to continue to meet the goals set so the insurance will keep paying.  Sad but true.

He was in Memphis where his family could easily access him and now since they have to work to pay bills and to keep insurance they are worried about him not having friendly faces.  I am hoping there might be someone who knows someone that could just say hello to him.  Yes he ahs shown horses but has a love of cattle as well.  He is an outstanding young man and still has a long road to recovery.  They are close to the cap on their insururance and there is an auction going on online to benefit him.  Yes there are horse things and stud fees but there are also jewelry, hats and a custom drawing and lots more.  I know the cow community is a wonderful place to raise a child.  So if you have a moment and live in the area or know of someone that works there, please share a smile with Banks.
Thanks All

Here is the link to online auction  http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/138853899581412/

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The Big Show / Sr. Showmanship question at Indiana State Fair
« on: August 07, 2012, 12:14:28 PM »
Just passing this along and sharing.  Steve Gunn judged and his first question in the prelims he asked our son  was "Tell me about your calf" and in the finals for Sr he asked  and this is the theme of the question not a comple quote...What can you do to promote the cattle industry and get new people involved in it?   Thought they gave the child the chance to really excell or not based on their speaking and thought skills.  He did a good job and congrats to Morgan Thompson on her Championship and to Jade Sills on her Reserve Championship.   (clapping)

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If a judge is approached at the end of the show for a discussion( very civil one) and they admit to making a mistake with not only 1 class but the overall decision, does that make them more respected or less respected?  Should they stand by their decision and just say it was thier opinion for the day?  Curious to see what you all think.

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The Big Show / Child Labor Rules withdrawn
« on: April 27, 2012, 05:09:58 PM »
Got this in my email and passing along.  What is this???  Could it be they the almight Washington DC HEARD all the people that thought this was a load of crap??  Woot Woot.  Score one for the Masses!!!
I think I smell an election coming ;)

http://www.agweb.com/article/child_labor_rule_withdrawn/

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A while back Yahoo said Agriculture was a worthless degree to pursue..  Yahoo can Kiss my booty!  Please share.  This was posted to me from a friend that markets for the Pork Producers and also owns a cattle ranch in North Dakota with family. He has a cowboy heart working in the city but is passionate about agriculture.  So share this everywhere! 

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Hey cattle folks.  Here is the email to the judge in the Southern Arkansas University  horse killing of Credit Card.  Email provided by the owner's mom so people can email the judge and ask for the maximum penalty for Jaci Jackson and her cohorts in the stealing of the horses and trailer and the shooting, throat slitting and dismemberment fo Credit Card.  Send a short note to the judge.  I cannot imagine what drove her to this other than she and those envolved are sick sick people.  I know us horse people can be a little different but wrong is wrong.  I view from another livestock industry certainly wouldn't hurt.

ChandlerLW@SBCglobal.net

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The Big Show / Hoosier Beef Congress Food Drive
« on: November 18, 2011, 09:02:19 PM »
Just looked at the site and they are having a food drive for the Indianapolis Gleaners to bring in cans to the show and be entered into a drawing for a showbox and blower.  Neat idea, so we all eat good when we are there so throw in a few extra cans and you might be going home with a great prize.  Will be a fun show as always.
http://hoosierbeefcongress.com/images/2011/9-28-11/food-drive-ad.pdf

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