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The Big Show / Gilmans Envied
« on: September 29, 2020, 10:47:05 PM »
I have only seen one picture of this bull.  What can anyone tell me about him as far as a bull that a beef producer might find useful? Not interested in show stuff just commercial value,

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The Big Show / Re: Black Shorthorns
« on: August 10, 2020, 08:52:15 AM »
If customers are not satisfied we take the beef back and refund their money.  That has happened twice, we then sold the beef to someone else and they loved it.  Sold a sample last week, two days later he ordered a whole animal for January delivery.  He has no idea what color the hair will be. 

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The Big Show / Re: Black Shorthorns
« on: August 09, 2020, 10:24:32 PM »
That is the beauty of the grass fed beef business.  Nobody cares what color the hair is or what a judge thinks.  What matters is the quality of the product and the customer gets to decide that.

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The Big Show / Re: Your thoughts on some Shorthorn AI Sires
« on: July 30, 2020, 11:00:23 PM »
Put some Rawhide embryos in today.

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The Big Show / Re: Herd Bull Pictures
« on: July 26, 2020, 11:34:00 PM »
Yes another example of the show ring messing up good cattle.  Sometimes I think shows should not have judges, just let the audience look them over and everyone can draw there own conclusions.

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The Big Show / Re: Herd Bull Pictures
« on: July 24, 2020, 10:01:47 PM »
There aren't many perfect bulls, I am sure you could find faults with mine. Use him and enjoy him.

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The Big Show / Re: Herd Bull Pictures
« on: July 24, 2020, 06:36:32 PM »
Roan bull has weak back with faulty thurl position.
I wasn't going to mention it but he does look like he could use a pusher axle in the middle.  I don't know how important that is dollar wise or if it is just my preference but that tail head points pretty high too.

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The Big Show / Re: Myostatin gene
« on: July 21, 2020, 07:18:19 AM »
Do bulls that carry the Myostatin gene tend to have smaller testicles?

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The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: May 21, 2020, 07:10:21 PM »
What about the elimination of the dairy influence-Still see alot of that O0
When you say dairy are you talking the dual purpose cattle?

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The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: May 19, 2020, 11:18:55 PM »
25 years ago I quit feeding grain to my replacement heifers.  I fed them good but not great hay and in the spring I sold the ones that did not look good.  I sold about two thirds of my heifers.  25 years later I am making them run with the cows until they are 10 months old then I wean them.  After they are weaned I turn them out to run with the animals that I am finishing on grass.  A month before breeding I sort my replacements off.  I don't have that many that I need to sell because of their condition.  At that point is the first time they are on an equal playing field with what is in the pasture.  I don't have many cows that weigh over 1400 and probably average 1250.

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Yes.  I believe cal state at davis does it.  I bought a bull from Norris Albaugh and he tested it.  I also bought a bull from Haumonts that was tested.

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The Big Show / Re: My new herd bull
« on: April 27, 2020, 07:41:33 AM »
It is always fun to get a new bull.  I hope you like him in the future,

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The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: April 20, 2020, 10:41:22 PM »
I just flushed a cow to him and got 5 embryos.  Minn Max leader is a half brother to him out of the same cow.  I flushed a Sparkle cow that I bought from JIT to Muridale Rawhide 6 e and got 29 embryos.  I think he ]is a 5.

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The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: April 20, 2020, 06:18:41 PM »
Just curious as to why you want calves with that frame size.  I am trying to get to a 4 frame score.  We don't all have to be alike but what advantage do you think you get from that frame score?


I cant speaker for the original poster but we are kinda going that way too. Maybe not 7+ frame but definitely bigger and longer than acreage. The people who feed our cattle want to hang as many pounds on a carcass as they can and these 5 frames bull that dont have any length dont get it done. Now I dont want my cows to get to big but if we can keep our cow weight to weaning weight ratio in the mid 40 percent and they breed back in our environment we ll take it.

 I'm right there with you. I was looking for a bull this spring. While looking at JSF, Byland, PVF I just couldn't bring myself to bid on bulls that are 3 to 5 frame. Obviously they have people that did, but they just don't work for me. Once again that's why everyone produces and raises what works for them, their environment and their customers.

Where did you find frame 3 and 4 cattle?  I am not doubting you I would like to know where to find them.

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The Big Show / Re: Bulls siring larger frames
« on: April 19, 2020, 11:06:40 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  I like cattle that weigh heavy too I just don't think I need long legs to do that.  I used to have a bull that was a frame score 4 that weighed a ton.  I love his daughters.  I finish my own cattle on grass so maybe that takes a different phenotype, but I still think it is about length times width times depth that makes pounds and to me big is pounds not inches.  Legs don't weigh that much, but you are right we get to choose what we want to raise.  I am looking for a frame score 4 cow that weighs 1250 and weans half her weight or more.

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