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The Big Show / Re: OLD bull semen codes?
« on: July 21, 2012, 03:47:37 PM »
thinking SP15 could be x3795021   MAXI'S CARDINAL  son of GL Maxi Duplicator from a Hilltop Warrior cow.

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The Big Show / Re: OLD bull semen codes?
« on: July 21, 2012, 01:45:51 PM »
The GV-13 bull stands for Gelbvieh. The Lucky bull was imported early on, along with bulls like Helau and a few others. That is or was excellent semen, I actually used it while I was at Valhalla Ranch in the early 80's. of course it was all in ampules.
Need more info on the other two - sorry
Terry

that's awesome to figure out one of the bulls.  Last night I had also got the idea that the bull could have been a Gelv- and ended up finding this bull, attached below.  Does this look right to you?  The date of birth, and collection dates would match up for a young bull getting collected.  Do you think that this stuff would have any merit to anyone of today?  Obviously not worth 5 cents to me. 

Would you have any idea why one cane top says 94N?  Could that be a tattoo?  What breed is "N"? 

Do you know anything about the two shorthorn bulls?

One more question for an AI expert.  I have three, what appear to be single straws the size of drinking straws (1/4" x 10 inches).  They appear to be single AI straws, inside a plastic coating.  A friend of mine thought these might be "French style"?  But he did not know for sure, they were in the tank when he bought it, and he never used anything like it.  My question is, is this true, and how would you breed a cow using them? 

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The Big Show / Re: Captain Morgan
« on: July 21, 2012, 01:33:56 PM »
Ya, was a post a couple weeks ago asking about him-- and i suggested doing a search...  But as of last night the search feature was down.

I liked him, bought semen on him-- see quite a few calves being posted on here by someone in Iowa.

He's not being used to sire steers- b/c I don't know that he's bred to sire steers-- quite a bit of maternal in him.  I don't think he's been siring heifers either-- b/c nobody raising club calves breeds to make heifers.

He's the top 2 bull of Denver that year, in everyone opinion who was on the judging team of mine in college.  Stoutest, meatiest, and most powerful by far-- of course he was also a fall born-- so he had some extra age to him that time of year-- but I think it was legit power that he's got.  Biggest complaint- was a lack of hair quality.  I remember it being "herf" and purebred "char" in that regard. 

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The Big Show / Re: NAME THE BULL!
« on: July 21, 2012, 03:39:29 AM »
 (clapping)
FORTUNE 500 !!!!!
(clapping) (thumbsup)

more later.. don't have my bull books here right onw.

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The Big Show / Re: My new bull--- made an oops.
« on: July 21, 2012, 03:06:09 AM »
It was his parents fault. Bs'r has more excuses than Obama.

no they hate shorthorns...  don't have one on the place.

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The Big Show / Re: Irish bull semen?
« on: July 21, 2012, 01:22:41 AM »
Super thanks for the pictures-- that's 4 pictures that I have been wanting to see-- 2 of them real bad. 

is this direct scans-- or did you get them all side by side like such?

Direct scans off the back of Shorthorn Country.
got lucky there.

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The Big Show / Re: My new bull--- made an oops.
« on: July 21, 2012, 01:21:35 AM »
Where can someone get semen on Candyman?

the wildside dtr is sold to KS.  I know it sounds like a broken record-- but she's not as straight in real life.  Speaking of which knabe-- could you share some pictures of your herd bulls?  someone as knowledgeable as you, should have quite the program...  O wait, i forgot, it's impossible to raise cattle on your 5 acre spread in southern CA- especially since your horse eats everything, and I'd bet your prairie grasses aren't enough for your cats to live off of. 

Frosty: the original Candyman bull was owned by Kohlstadt's in MO..  He's Vegas x 20/20s sister- PHAC.  He has semen available on the open market.  Was advertised every year in the sire summary for about 5 in a row.  The bull is now dead- I think he lasted 9 years.  he is a light roan. 

The Candyman bull that sired this white heifer, and another group of heifers that we have-- is solid white and hamburger because he too was PHAC-- and we can't use a bull like that around here.  He was shipped after a calf crop and a half.  Basically long enough to realize he was hot-- and then tested the first 9 for 9 calves-  and all were carriers.  No semen ever collected.  He's from a Cunia/ fullblood Irish cow. 

Here are three more half sisters to the white heifer already shown. 

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The Big Show / Re: Irish bull semen?
« on: July 21, 2012, 01:04:50 AM »
I called a former employee of Iceway. Duke bred very small "dairy like" ..

 Janells Cavalier... is on the back cover of the country. 8.5 frame, red with white socks, bred in Canada

Looking at Duke I could see the small frame but that surprises me on the dairy type

me 2 Doc---  he appears to be a fat worthless pud.

Super thanks for the pictures-- that's 4 pictures that I have been wanting to see-- 2 of them real bad. 

is this direct scans-- or did you get them all side by side like such?

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The Big Show / Re: My new bull--- made an oops.
« on: July 20, 2012, 11:38:40 PM »
shorthorns...  duh.

but don't worry, if I get stomped at my state fair for 3 years in a row by a bunch of 'average' red commercial cows-- I won't quit the business and breed them all clubby. 

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The Big Show / Re: NAME THE BULL!
« on: July 20, 2012, 11:35:02 PM »
jody is the sim bull x339u.

higher number...  think nascar...  and money... 

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The Big Show / Re: The state of the planet
« on: July 20, 2012, 11:34:00 PM »
and I'm highly considering a switch of jobs, so I guess you won't have that to ***** about. 

You mean not posting?

ya that's it.

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The Big Show / Re: OLD bull semen codes?
« on: July 20, 2012, 11:33:30 PM »
Update on the bulls in question:

all in amps, and without thawing it out, this is as good as I can get.
pink color
MR STL BEAT  805234 or 804234

yellow color
cane top 94N
09 WKM collected 3-22-78

clear/ white color
I think the can top is ?0A9
WB 28 GV03 or 13
Lucky 13 or 18
collected 9-28-73.

unfortunately, I have no idea what this is, since all the tops are worn off.. and so more than likely I'm going to donate it to WIU for the beef class to see and learn with. 

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The Big Show / Re: The state of the planet
« on: July 20, 2012, 10:29:26 PM »
Just think of bs'rs herd bull every time he posts and you realize he doesn't do anything seriously.
enlighten me to which bull I 'own'... last time I checked, I don't own any herd bulls-- just helping promote a Maine.

and I'm highly considering a switch of jobs, so I guess you won't have that to ***** about. 

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The Big Show / Re: My new bull--- made an oops.
« on: July 20, 2012, 10:27:09 PM »
Was the oops letting him breed cows?

nope, on purpose...  I don't own him though, or any of the cows he bred.  He's at my parent's. 

look at it this way-- that bull stands a 100 to 1 chance at producing anything better and leaving a far more impacting legacy-- than any club calf bull you use. 

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The Big Show / Re: Shorthorn Guys...Tell me what you think of her
« on: July 20, 2012, 10:26:23 PM »
pretty standard regardless of the shorthorn pedigree-- you can count on them being pretty shallow until after a year old-- and pretty danged late maturing. 

Can you explain this comment? I'm not sure I follow what you are saying.

Far more shorthorn heifers calves will be late maturing, and shallow bodied as calves-- that goes hand in hand.  I'd bet much greater than 50%.  And then they'll body down as bred yearlings-- whether that is due to maturity growth pattern, feed, age, or being preg.  not sure.

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