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The Big Show / Re: Best Purebred Hereford Bull For Steers
« on: August 14, 2019, 11:29:49 AM »
Sioux Empire

The Big Show / Re: Steer high protein feed??
« on: August 05, 2019, 04:56:40 PM »
“Scoop” means nothing if you don’t weigh it.  Even if everyone’s scoop holds the same volume, the same volume of different feeds will weigh differently. Spend a few bucks on a hanging scale, weigh your feed, then get back to us.

Cattle are like kids, they won’t grow at the same rate all of their lives.  You’ll have growth spurts and you’ll have periods where gain flattens out.   Absolutely you do need to weigh your steers regularly and be conscious of where they are in relation to their projected end point, BUT, don’t get so fixated on a certain end weight that you don’t get them finished correctly.  And remember that there a lot of factors that can affect a single weigh. Don’t make drastic changes based on a weekly weight, look at it over a longer period of time.

You’re talking about San Antonio Or Houston - no matter what your steer weighs, the same number from every class (at least within your breed) will make the sale.  Make sure he’s right for his weight.  940 today is not necessarily way too heavy for those shows.

The Big Show / Re: best clipper lube?
« on: July 15, 2019, 10:06:41 AM »
If you’re going to use anything heavy like motor oil, be very careful to wipe any residue off before you start clipping - the last thing you need is a glob of that heavy oil getting in your calf’s hair, especially if you’re fitting.  The heavier oil is no doubt better for the life of your clipper blades, but mere convenience isn’t the only reason most fitters use final bloom (or something similar).  Whatever you use for lube, get yourself a small soft brush to clean your clippers, and use it regularly - especially when you’re clipping in adhesives.

I like the little bottle of oil that comes with the Andes clippers - I use it when I start and when I stop, but again - being sure to wipe away residue.  But when i’m fitting, especially like a leg, I use a quick shot of final bloom regularly. As long as you don’t overdo it, it won’t break down your adhesive but your blades will cut much better and smoother. Be sure when you spray it on your blades the overspray isn’t hitting the leg.

I have the ZR’s - they’re handy to have around, but I probably would have never bought them myself, they were a gift. I keep 2 or 3 sets of 2 speeds that I use almost all of the time.  Occasionally, if I remember to have the cordless ones charged, I’ll take them to the make up ring - rarely use them much even then. We do go to a slick shear jackpot show where the rules state that only cordless clippers may be used at the show, so we use them for touch up there.  There’s really nothing wrong with them, I’m just not in the habit of using them. But if you really want them, you will probably end up using them more than I do.

The difference in the ZR and the ZR II appears to be a detachable battery (and around $80). Not sure if that includes an extra battery or not.  I’d guess if you plan on using them a lot, being able to use one battery while you’re charging another would be nice. I don’t honestly know how long the charge on the ZR would last using them alone to actually clip or fit - I know they can be on the charger overnight and off all day, using them just a little here and there throughout the day, they seem to hold up very well.

The Big Show / Re: Yello Repo
« on: April 11, 2019, 09:32:41 PM »
A couple of breeeders I talked to at the time told me they didn’t have any calving problems out of him. By his pedigree, I’d expect that to be true. I did really, really like him when I saw him when he was young, and saw a few nice calves out of him but he never really caught on.

I bought a cane of Yellow Repo semen back when they were promoting him, but I didn’t end up AI’ing any cows that fall.  I’d forgotten it was in the tank, but I ran across it and ended up using some of it last fall, on some cows I really like but they haven’t clicked real well for us so far.  I’m anxious to see what they have.

I would think he could work well for what you’re wanting to do, but I’m not speaking from experience.

The Big Show / Re: Wheres the old timers at?
« on: April 10, 2019, 10:04:49 PM »
Good to hear - sounds like youre doing well.

It looks like things might be picking up around here a bit.

The Big Show / Re: Concealed / Open Firearms Carry
« on: April 10, 2019, 09:54:48 PM »
I rarely carry on my person.  I do keep a pistol in my truck (that’s why I lock it pretty much every time I get out) at all times, and occasionally it goes in my pocket if I’m concerned for the safety of myself or my family.  I like the constitutional carry deal, but I like being legal across state lines,too. If you’ve taken the class to get your permit, you know it really doesn’t mean much anyway, at least not here in OK.

There are a few guys around here that open carry daily on the farm/ranch and don’t bother to take it off at the cafe or the quick stop or the co-op or the parts store.  They don’t bother me much, but I kinda know how to take them - I’m always a little taken aback by the ones I’m not familiar with. 

The Big Show / Re: Wheres the old timers at?
« on: April 01, 2019, 11:49:07 AM »
Im still here - sometimes.

Glad to see Telos is still around.

Whatve you been up to Zach.

The Big Show / Re: Red Angus steer shows
« on: March 24, 2019, 11:40:21 AM »
I know Houston and San Antonio at least have Red Angus steer classes.  Classification is strictly visual (papers and breeders don’t matter) but I believe they want them to appear pretty much purebred. We have the classes in the books for Red Angus steers at OYE and Tulsa, but haven’t gotten enough numbers to get them out of the AOB’s yet. I believe Tulsa calls for at least one registered parent, OYE would be strictly visual, like Texas. I’m really not sure if that means they’re gonna have to look like purebreds or if looking like halfbloods is enough.

I’m curious to see how it works out, because we’ve been using Red Angus on our first calf heifers (mostly exotic crosses), and we calved out a set of Red Angus heifers this spring as well. We have a halfblood going to Tulsa, we’re going to nominate him Red Angus and see what happens,

The Big Show / Re: OYE
« on: March 24, 2019, 11:20:13 AM »
I would have shown in my first Oklahoma City spring junior show in 1978, I believe. I did alright with some heifers, never made the sale with a steer ‘til my senior year (1983) when I had reserve Hereford. Between my nieces and nephews, other families I’ve helped, and my own kids, I don’t believe there has been a year since 1978 that I haven’t been involved with one or a dozen steers (and heifers, and a few goats) in this show. We’ve had a few champions and reserves, several class winners and a whole bunch of something less, but most were competitive. A few crashed and burned, too. It’s the nature of the game.

From the standpoint of quality, I haven’t seen them all, but I’ve seen a bunch, and I don’t believe any other junior show can match the sheer depth of quality at OYE. Sure there are lots of great shows and great livestock all across the country, and I’m not saying this to take away from any others,  but the percentage of really good ones, that are dialed in and presented to the hilt at OYE would be tough to top.

It has certainly evolved in to an event that’s always fun and exciting, especially for the exhibitors, but for the spectators too. Every day, all the time there’s something happening - showmanship contests, fitting contests, skill-a-thon... The old fuddy duddy in me kinda misses when the grand drive was just the end of the show, but I know how excited the kids are about the big production it has become. That short ride in that stretch limousine is what every kid there dreams about, and that provides more motivation than you can imagine.

I’m proud to say that the shows current CEO is one of those kids I helped along the way. He hasn’t done it alone, but he’s a very big part of what OYE is now. Folks like Jimmy Harrel and Bob Funk and many others not so recognized, too. Many thanks to them all.

The Big Show / Re: Houston
« on: March 18, 2019, 12:34:42 PM »
Roadrunner, I have to ask why not start a discussion about Houston rather than one about why we arent discussing Houston?  Like Tallcool1 said, we really dont get much discussion about steer shows anywhere on this forum anymore.  Unlike Tallcool1, I have nothing against slick shear shows, and would be interested, but I wasnt there. Im in Oklahoma, getting ready for OYE (another very big very tough show I havent seen mentioned here). I dont think we have a ton of people on this board anymore that go to these shows, or if they do they couldnt tell you what happened beyond what theyre own kids did. Not knocking anyone, its just the way it is.

The Big Show / Re: Where have all the readers/posters gone?
« on: January 23, 2019, 04:30:19 AM »
Ive been here since April 2007 - another refugee from the old ShowSteers board.

I think these boards tend to have a life cycle, a kind of ebb and flow of their own. Regular posters get busy, or bored, or distracted, or sometimes their interests change. Im not at all complaining about the Shorthorn breeders that have made a home here - to be sure, they get a lot of credit for keeping this board alive - but like others have said, I personally only have a passing interest. There are always cliques, and banter that newbies dont quite know how to take and so not many stick around unless the board is busy enough that they can find a place to fit in.

I see the kind of newbie questions that we used to get here on Facebook groups now - and if you thought this place could be brutal, you aint seen nothin yet...

There used to be a handful from here on Cattle Today, but only a couple (that I recognize, anyway) are active now. But last I looked the show sub forum hadnt had a post since October.

Im certainly as guilty as anyone of not adding new content to this board. I check in 2 or 3 times a week, comment occasionally if something piques my interest. Then ill follow it a little closer til that topic dies, and then go back to only looking in once in awhile. Yet I always think about how I miss the times when this board was busy.  Like everything else in life, we only get out of it what we put in it.

The Big Show / Re: trend of show steers
« on: January 10, 2019, 09:47:33 AM »
I wasnt there, and dont know it for a fact, but theres a good chance those 2 steers that won have been shown a few times this fall/winter.  I know that both of them resemble the steers those kids showed at Kansas City, and also the one Horn showed at Louisville. If this was their second or third big show (and we all know those folks play to win every time), that could explain why they were clipped pretty tight.

The Big Show / Re: Sweating Calves
« on: January 06, 2019, 01:02:49 AM »
Its not actually sweat; rather condensation gathering on a calfs warm body from a cooler, damp atmosphere. Mostly you see it with cattle in barns that are somewhat warmer than the cold outside temperature. Its one reason you see so many fans running in show barns when it seems cold enough already.

The Big Show / Re: trend of show steers
« on: January 06, 2019, 12:38:42 AM »
Lobatomy, who judged that show? I was surprised to see the champ lightweight steer as reserve overall. Hard to believe there wasnt one in heavy or middle weight to choose. And I agree, the pretty ones and great structured ones are getting it done nowadays. They certainly dont have to have a ton of product in them....

Gargan, I don’t know what that yellow steer weighed, but I’m guessing you were reading the Pulse like I was.  They just called him the champion “light cross”, but it meant he won the light colored division, not light weight. Light colored basically being white, grey or yellow with no white spots on their sides or top.

It’s confusing if you’re not familiar with Phoenix’s classification system.

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