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The Big Show / Re: Ace or Thorazine?
« Last post by BroncoFan on Today at 05:28:53 PM »
I dont know... You must have felt like the heifer was good enough to go to nationals and is probably a key breeding piece in your operation so spaying is not the answer. If you knew before hand that she was going to be difficult while in heat then a cidr might have been the way to go. Not going to condemn!
The Big Show / Re: 2019 Iowa State Fair Steer Show
« Last post by cowpoke on Today at 12:19:45 PM »
Excellent show .Amanda Schnoor  did a commendable job and was done about 1.30 which left 3 Hours until parade and champion selection.The exhibitors and all the people involved should be very proud.
The Big Show / Re: Is the shorthorn bull Hidden Treasure heifer safe?
« Last post by -XBAR- on Today at 11:23:59 AM »
Solid bull doc. 
You really should get some semen on SEK and Cattle Visions-Its just alot easier for people to try him etc even while getting other bulls-If he works well -The demand will grow O0
The Big Show / First show
« Last post by Smallpotatoes on August 16, 2019, 08:45:57 PM »
Well our first show went well. Kids made it in and out of the ring. Safely without incident. But we were blown out of the water!  We were on the bottom.  The kids are just now hitting 4th grade so Im not at all upset. But how early does everyone start feeding?  Admittedly we have only been on feed 2 months, but wow. The growth of the other calves!  If youre not of full feed at 6 months age are you behind? 
The Big Show / Re: Ace or Thorazine?
« Last post by knabe on August 16, 2019, 08:41:53 PM »
you would have taught that kid the right thing to do by not entering the heifer.

next time, spay the heifer.
The Big Show / Re: Is the shorthorn bull Hidden Treasure heifer safe?
« Last post by Doc on August 16, 2019, 08:05:00 PM »
Here's another calving ease sire with a pedigree to back him up. SLF Red Hot Commodity.
CED 12, BW -0.1, WW 53, YW 75, MK 21, BMI 139.40
Already sired winners in his first crop and been used on heifers with great success.
He is sired by Hot Commodity out of a Destiny Best cow that is by SULL Payday and out of a Red Reward sired dam.
The mature pic is him this June as a 3 yr old. The heifer is a September hfr by him taken back in April.
The Big Show / Re: Ace or Thorazine?
« Last post by firesweepranch on August 16, 2019, 07:12:42 PM »
My halter of choice is actually halter breaking the calf and not drugging it. Ace and Thorazine are both illegal tranquilizers to use on cattle. Per FDA standards. Its a federal crime.
If you cant halter break the calf, dont be an ass that breaks laws.

I had a heifer that was in a wild, hot HOT heat at nationals. She was bawling, and trying to jump EVERYTHING that stood still. She is more than halter broke, been to at least 10 shows this year. Send her to the ring, dragging a kid, trying to jump everything.... or give her something to take the edge off her heat???? No way with the fees involved you are leaving her in the stall, so why make a kid miserable showing a raging heat heifer???
The Big Show / Re: Is the shorthorn bull Hidden Treasure heifer safe?
« Last post by Weezie on August 16, 2019, 02:26:29 PM »
I second on not breeding heifers to him. I think Hidden Treasure has his place but don't breed a heifer to him.
The Big Show / Re: Is the shorthorn bull Hidden Treasure heifer safe?
« Last post by mark tenenbaum on August 16, 2019, 12:08:40 AM »
Dont even think about it with his sire-Will Lane on here has a very good PROVEN heifer bull with breeding somewhat inline with Hiddan Treasure called Lunesta He"s good there have already been 40 or 50 females bred to him, He also won a number of shows down South like Ft Worth: and is the easiest calving bull theyve had in 35 years of cattle pictured are him at ft worth-and a good hiefer calf from a first calf heifer-nothing has been over 74 pounds and that includes some predictably hi bw popular bred females
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