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Re: "COMPLETE" bull has been collected
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2011, 04:13:45 PM »
New advertisement for Complete in the Shorthorn Country and Ohio Cattlemen's Magazine.

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Re: "COMPLETE" bull has been collected
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2011, 03:29:28 PM »
Just got my country. Dad thought was a hell of a bull .
The calves in the commerical simmy herd by Complete look awesome and very uniform!! Who is going to buy all of those complete Heifer calves????
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2011, 07:21:39 PM »
Glad George likes him. I am guessing that Mr McCann will keep a couple of the heifers, but the rest will go the sale barn along with the bull calves. He doesnt steer them. He just weans them and ships em. Im sure if you offered him market price you could get em all. He has done that for me in the past on several occasions. If I had the money, I would buy em and finish em in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2011, 02:53:28 AM »
I'd take a couple of those heifers for market price. How many calves do they have? How many are heifers?

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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2011, 03:06:47 AM »
Good question. I will get back to ya. Need to hop in the truck and run over there.
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Re: "COMPLETE" bull has been collected
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2011, 01:06:33 AM »
Good question. I will get back to ya. Need to hop in the truck and run over there.

If you're gona run...  Why hop in the truck???   ;)

RS called me the other day... My visit in  June is a go ahead...  That is... as long as I'm still alive, and make it out to Sedalia to the stud ram sale. Excited I am.

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Re: "COMPLETE" bull has been collected
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2011, 01:36:40 AM »
Josh, one bull the rest heifers. He is keeping a few heifers and maybe the bull calf. Apparently TG Complete likes to throw heifers so far. Go figure. I wanted bulls out of him for someone to finish. Oh well always next year! Im sure more then one bull calf will be born.


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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2011, 09:10:07 PM »
Is he registered as a durham red?
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2011, 02:10:07 AM »
AJ, he does not have Durham red papers but is registered AR. I am not familiar with the durham red registration process because I don't have any other red angus influence. Not knowing what all is involved I would definitely be willing to get him some papers that way if it would make a difference. Do you know what I would need to do? I think it would be a good idea in order to market him for that use.

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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2011, 02:20:00 AM »
AJ, he does not have Durham red papers but is registered AR. I am not familiar with the durham red registration process because I don't have any other red angus influence. Not knowing what all is involved I would definitely be willing to get him some papers that way if it would make a difference. Do you know what I would need to do? I think it would be a good idea in order to market him for that use.

I'm not for sure , but I think part of the process you had to record BW,WW & YW. I think there is something else, also.
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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2011, 02:23:19 AM »
Doc, we do have those numbers and dates, thanks to Trevor Grey Cattle Company. So hopefully that is all we would need but not sure.

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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2011, 03:20:13 AM »
He is registered as a 3/4 blood shorthorn. No Durham Red. Whats the point really if the assoc did away with it. Am I wrong in this. To be a Durham Red you must submit much more than bw, ww, and yw DOC. I didnt see the point honestly. Maybe I am misinformed about the DR deal being pushed aside. If it makes a difference to someone, I will do all I can to make him a DR. Look at his pedigree, he is a 3/4 shorthorn with a shot of Cherokee Canyon. Say what you will about Cher Can but the Missy Ruth cow and the Clementines are behind him as well. I pray he breeds as good as he looked on minimum inputs.
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2011, 04:05:16 AM »
He is registered as a 3/4 blood shorthorn. No Durham Red. Whats the point really if the assoc did away with it. Am I wrong in this. To be a Durham Red you must submit much more than bw, ww, and yw DOC. I didnt see the point honestly. Maybe I am misinformed about the DR deal being pushed aside. If it makes a difference to someone, I will do all I can to make him a DR. Look at his pedigree, he is a 3/4 shorthorn with a shot of Cherokee Canyon. Say what you will about Cher Can but the Missy Ruth cow and the Clementines are behind him as well. I pray he breeds as good as he looked on minimum inputs.

Actuall... bw . ww. yw. and scrotal measurements for a DR bull to get papered. I guess your right TGC about one thing ASA did take a big ol dump on the program. However ... one thing I have always said about DR vs Shortplus .... there is a "pedigree" you can look at and for the folks that looked at this deal seriously from the beginning ..... that's what made it a selling point over the SH +?? But hay if you want a SH + paper just take your sh bull and breed it to the neighbor's goat.....  report nothing but   you'll still get a paper  ;) ??
 
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Re: "COMPLETE" bull has been collected
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2011, 12:07:13 PM »
Thanks Sue. I thought it was 1 other thing besides the 3 wgts. Just couldn't think of it.
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Re: "COMPLETE" bull has been collected
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2011, 01:35:00 PM »
I thought you also had to report a yearling hip height and a calving ease score as well?   
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