2009 Houston Livestock Show Steer Carcass Results

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knabe

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Chambero,

i can't remember, are the lightweights supposed to be finished condition day of show or somewhat prospect?

once again, the top two steers show some interesting traits other than being a chi and a shorthorn.  didn't last year a shorthorn win carcass?
 

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This is a terminal show and cattle are judged as finished.

I dont remember on last year.

Dont assume any of these cattle - even the breeds - are purebred anything.

I think the carcasses graded out just fine again compared to high end feedlot cattle.
 

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knabe said:
Chambero,

i can't remember, are the lightweights supposed to be finished condition day of show or somewhat prospect?

once again, the top two steers show some interesting traits other than being a chi and a shorthorn.  didn't last year a shorthorn win carcass?
It was a Maine last year that won the carcass contest.
 

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Its amazing how well these cattle dress.  Obviously they're fat and don't have any tag on them so that helps but you can run the risk of having a heavy weight carcass with a 1400 steer.  You need to be 1550  to worry about that in the real world.
 

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The cattle dress so well because they use the show weights to figure the yeild and they are obviously pulled a little greater than the 5% weigh back.  Good news is the the champion carcass was a home raised calf by a great hard working family.
 

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old timer said:
they are obviously pulled a little greater than the 5% weigh back.

that to me, is one of the few problems i have with shows.  don't know that i have a solution though.  i guess it doesn't matter that much because they are all essentially normalized to the same scale, except of course against lot animals.
 

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old timer said:
The cattle dress so well because they use the show weights to figure the yeild and they are obviously pulled a little greater than the 5% weigh back.  Good news is the the champion carcass was a home raised calf by a great hard working family.

I don't know why they don't post their live weights right before slaughter.  I assume they do reweigh them.  That would be some interesting data.
 

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We've had so much trouble with packers discounting our club calves that last year we decided to go to ultrasound information for our carcass contest, much like the bull test stations get their info.   I know this may not be "real world" to some people but the discounts were costing the families a lot of money plus we can do all the cattle this way--even those going on to state fair, etc.    We provide the IMF, BF, and REA to ISU and they do the calculations for us.  The downside is that we have to use a common dressing percentage but we do get very good, comparable information for the kids.   My daughter's market heifer(home raised Shorthorn/Simmy/Maine cross)won our "carcass contest" with a 17.3 REA, .31 BF, and 4.6 IMF.  In looking at the Houston carcass results she might have even done pretty well there.     The good news is that she is still alive and is due with her first calf any day now.    
 

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chambero said:
old timer said:
The cattle dress so well because they use the show weights to figure the yeild and they are obviously pulled a little greater than the 5% weigh back.  Good news is the the champion carcass was a home raised calf by a great hard working family.

I don't know why they don't post their live weights right before slaughter.  I assume they do reweigh them.  That would be some interesting data.

they re-weigh the load, but not individual animals.
 

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There is a very good basic idea posted here by Oakbar. Retained ownership is a very good way to asses real carcass quality in terminal or breeding situations. If there were a more cost effective  way to ultra sound more animals it would be a great indicator with which to answer the great Angus beef deal-which may not be pure Angus AT ALL  O0
 
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