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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2020, 01:29:51 PM »
There might be one or two there that go back to red reward  (lol)

Jokes aside I did see (1) calf in the JsF catalog that did//// Maybe thats because they bred Red Demand and registered 150 or so head to him after he went to sullivans-+- As far as registrations there are around 470 Red Demands registered and a slew of steers etc that Jay Benhm fed but didnt register-There are close to 600 Red Rewards registered and surely a bunch more that ended up on the back road near Sullivans at thier feedlot-Thats over 1000 registrations. Nobody can sell Shorthorn bulls in the volumes of the big Western Angus etc breeders-They sell more bulls in a couple sales than Shorthorns do in the entire breed for several years O0

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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2020, 02:19:42 PM »
Over 1000 registrations from direct offspring then the line essentially died out as evident by there being nearly none who show him as the maternal grand sire.   Like I said in the other post, you have Leveldale boardwalk and thats it.   Out of those 150 you mention, little to none were retained as breeding pieces to build upon for the next generation -making my case and point.

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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2020, 04:46:24 PM »
Grand daughters etc of Red Reward? Surely you jest-I dont have time to go through that many registrations Ditto to see where the Red Demand and Red Advantage  Jungels cattle  went I would say a number of them got sold somewhere :especially with the number of commercial buyers who dont give a dam about papers Next time I see Jungels I"ll try and remember to ask The Rewards are all over and there are alot of the females that have produced numerous calves that were registered Jay Benham had way more cattle out of Red Demand than Jungels and until recently was still using him although hes getting old as a walking bull-Sullivan had some too-Ive been to Benhams several times and saw as many as 25 daughters from one calf crop-about 6 years ago he sold some for several years at Ohio and kept some for cows-which he bred to private Malone and sold daughters and bulls -Some at Ohio a good many privately-to kids and commercial breeders-Who in many cases dont register anything. Of course the cattle evolved into a more attractive show package-like Rewards over Demands which were prettier and darker red,Sull payday-a kind of combo of both-and or a number of Reward sons that are doing a fairly good job even though you can also show them  SO- lets see your case over the last 14 or so YEARS for ONE line of U S  basic performance bulls (EZ CALVERS THAT GROW AND DONT LOOK LIKE SKINNY MILKERS) that are still contributing calves in 2019-20 that can SHOW and work as cows-How many Eagle 666s (the devil made me do it ) are still out there competing with Major Leroy RE BWS? O0
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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2020, 08:28:55 PM »
Are there any new 1/2 blood shorthorn clubby bulls out there?

Looking for a very clean front, decent spine length, and a touch of frame to go with all the other good stuff.

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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2020, 10:13:57 AM »
Are there any new 1/2 blood shorthorn clubby bulls out there?

Looking for a very clean front, decent spine length, and a touch of frame to go with all the other good stuff.
To add frame and spine I'd go back a little to Tabasco.  There are a few newer ones like orange sherbet and redneck and dabo but I would think theyd downsize
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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2020, 11:16:55 AM »
We used Revolution and they were pretty nice and dual registerable. Shorthorn and Chi, cleaned up front end kept belly and spine length without compromising thickness.
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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2020, 07:45:15 PM »
There are several-AF Blue Moon is one at J3 Cattle-Hes an I 80 out of Aldens Mirage-Got good maternal but hes plenty stout-THE FREAK ON A LEASH IS MINDBENDER Just make sure you have a very correct sound female-He is a Starburst on a MeyerxFull Throttle-Changes them more than anything ive seen since the good old days Man On A Mission is a real nice solid red deal who you might like too-Although use has been limited-The calves have been very good-I have semen on Sull Blue as well VegasxStockman-full sib to the big time dark blue female winners of Sullivan-certainly some of the premier plusses Pictures- The two heifers are mindbenders from NON OTHER than THE VA STATE FAIR LAST FALL-Shorthorns are basically non existant in VA-not so in MD PA or West VA Blue moon is third O0

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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2020, 01:06:58 PM »
Any chance we could get back to the original post?  Would love to hear from anyone out there in mile high. thoughts opinions etc.  Ive read the bickering before about what we all should be doing according to xbar, not as interested in that. 

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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2020, 03:13:37 PM »
Any chance we could get back to the original post?  Would love to hear from anyone out there in mile high. thoughts opinions etc.  Ive read the bickering before about what we all should be doing according to xbar, not as interested in that. 

Maybe you suffer from some of that derangement syndrome they talk about Trump opposers having-but I havent made any comments here regarding what you or anyone else here should be doing

On a sidenote- perhaps if you did listen a little more you might not continually experience such **** luck with **** cattle

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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2020, 04:12:54 PM »
 Why is that XBAR character allowed to remain on this site?
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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2020, 04:26:26 PM »
Display bulls won't be displayed until this weekend so will probably have more info then. Don't know if they start Thursday or Friday.

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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2020, 06:51:56 PM »
Why is that XBAR character allowed to remain on this site?

Simple.  I walk the walk.

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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2020, 07:02:18 PM »
It always seemed like to me that the display club calf bulls out there....well 90% of them are duds. They aren't subject to drug tests. They are fed and manufactured to with in inches of their life. They are all dead at the age of three. I don't know ..just my perception I guess.
People can't believe we have such a big moon for such a small town.

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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2020, 08:35:24 PM »
Why is that XBAR character allowed to remain on this site?

Simple.  I walk the walk.
Because Xbar is a Xpert. Just ask him😆
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Re: 2020 Denver Bulls
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2020, 09:06:03 PM »
Why is that XBAR character allowed to remain on this site?

Simple.  I walk the walk.
Because Xbar is a Xpert. Just ask him😆

O doc dont be sour- Im sure theres something youre good at too, surely?


 

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