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librarian

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Shorthorn on Galloway/Angus cross.
Does this make it Shorthorn Plus or British Composite? Or is that a dumb question?
 

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Really like the cow really like the calf!
Isn't that the beginning of Speckle park? Shorthorn x Angus etc (thumbsup)
 

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OH Breeder you are vey close, but Speckle Park came about through the breeding of Shorthorn bulls on commercial White Park cows. When the founders of the breed noticed that they kept on throwing the same colour patterns of leopard, and white with black points, they kept back the good ones. They then incorperated black angus.

It is very intersesting playing around with this breed, thus I have a few commercial Speckle Parks myself. For a few years I have been breeding them up with purebrd bulls through AI and this past year they were all bred Shorthorn. I have gotten mostly white with black point colored calves (Cows are all white with black points). Got some solid blacks, leopard, and this year I got a white with red points.   
 

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Yes, I am looking at making some home made Speckled Park. My hackneyed theory is that color patterns that are so persistent as to be almost impossible to breed out, are linked to other survivalist traits. Even the Bible advises that these animals are keepers.   
I am hoping the Galloway/Angus cross seems to be a good foundation to AI to Speckled Park, although I have not gotten that far.  I have another bull calf of similar breeding as the one pictured and both these bull calves show the same pattern of muscling, width and depth that I am looking for. Both have the White Park color pattern.
I would like to AI the half sisters of these little bulls (half sisters on the Shorthorn side as well as half sisters on the Galloway side and cousins on the Angus side) to Speckled Park and then use the best of these bull calves back on them to keep my Shorthorn bull in the mix.  I have calves that are the same Galloway/Angus mix without the Shorthorn and they do not have as much depth or muscle.
Even though, as a friend, I should not let my friends use these crossbred bulls, it seems like using them back on their own extended family is more line breeding than cross breeding. I could be deluded on that, though.
 

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Librarian- That is a nice White Galloway X Angus female.  The White Galloway got their color pattern from Whitebred Shorthorn blood.  That is why they are registered in a separate herdbook from the Full blood Galloways.  Some of the original Speckle Park had a little White Galloway running in their veins as well. So I have been told more than once.

Cattle look good.
 
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Love the cow and especially the calf! They are really neat looking.
 

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On the Original Speckle park cattle site, there is an account written by Bill Lamont about where the early cows came from. 
http://www.speckleparkoriginal.com/
he says:
We had worked up to about thirteen head of Speckle Parks after about thirteen years of trying. I went out to the pasture one time and on the way I discovered three dead, good marked cows on the road. Another farmer had rented some crop land fairly close to our pasture and had been combining wheat in the dark; of course when he pulled the combine into the bin, the door boards had never been put in, so the wheat ran all over the ground. I hadn't even known that a few of our cows had been getting out as this was after we had moved down near Maidstone. That set us back a few years with our numbers, but we carried on. Later, Mary wrote me to come by if I had room for any more cattle. They had run Dave Lindsay's Galloway bull in with a bunch of spotted cattle and Mary was able to sell me about six or seven heifers. So that is where the Galloway blood got into the herd. There were at least four of these, which made very good cows and I was proud of them.

HAB: I wanted to buy some Pericles semen one time, but never got to it because I found a White Galloway bull.  Here is a picture of him. He and my Shorthorn bull started out together and both throw a lot of females, so I have a sort of collection of their daughters out of one family of Angus cows.  I would like to find a Red Galloway bull to use on some of these to get red points.  I'm looking for red semen on a low and thick, big barreled bull with a short head and lots of lung capacity, super sound on his legs and moving like a panther.  Do you have anything like that? I actually saw a Galloway bull that moved like that one time.

And a picture of a red bull calf sired by my Shorthorn bull on a White Galloway/Angus cow that I sold as a bred heifer. That's when I stopped selling bred heifers.

And another of the the same white calf.  I also have a really nice white heifer calf out of a White Galloway dam and that stout Wye-ish Angus bull I posted a while back.
I can't say enough good things about the Galloway/Angus cross.  I feel guilty for crossing the Galloways, though, because I feel the Galloway blood should be kept pure.
So thanks for doing so much to keep it going.

I also have some blacks out of the same sire as the whites.  The blacks are all much shaggier than the whites.
 

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Just an update on this bull calf. I finally pulled him off pasture today, so he is milk fat.
And an old cell phone shot of the sire last summer with this calf and the dam. I was thinking of trying this F2 on some some black Galloway cows, or some of the closely related F1 blue roans.
Just showing the picture because I thought he was neat from day one and somebody might want to try this cross at home.
And the last is the female version, a 3/4 sib.
 

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