An interesting Shorthorn bull in Ireland

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vanridge

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He looks very long. Knowing his weight I would say he is too big for me, however on the picture I wouldn't have guessed him to be over 3400.  If he is 10 years old and still breeding cows I can't see a farmer keeping him around for that long if he was a hard calver.  I would like to see a shorter head on him but that is just personal taste. I'm kinda curious about his feet and legs though......
 

woodyc

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justintime said:
This bull was used in the Glenariff in England and is now in Ireland in the Ricketstown herd. The Uppermill herd is the oldest breeding herd of any breed in the world, but it was sold in entirity a few years ago to a breeder in Ireland. The Uppermill herd name continues on today with a new owner and a new country ( Ireland). I have been trying to pull his pedigree up on the UK registry, but for some reason I haven't been able to get it on my computer tonight.

I think I could guess at some of his pedigree but am not going to do that until I find out his pedigree for sure. As far as using a bull this big on a cow herd, I suspect there are no major issues. I expect he is not used on heifers. I had a Rodeo Drive son ( HC Merger 93M) who was well over 3000 lbs and he bred the cows easily and we never assisted a calf born from him. I still have some daughters in our herd by Merger, He developed degeneration of his testicles so I had to sell him, and he weighed 3170 lb at the sale barn after an overnight stand, so he would have weighed over 3300 lb if you add just 5% for shrink.

Uppermill Beggar has tremendous length, and an excellent rear quarter. He appears to be very sound on his feet and legs and appears to be veryu smooth made for a 10 year old sire of this size. I suspect several hundred pounds of his weight comes from his extreme length. I was always told that you added about 70 lbs to a 1200 lb steer if you added 1 inch to his middle. It would be much more than that on a bull this size



uppermill isn't the oldest herd in the world that honour belongs to balandalloch a angus herd in Spey side in Scotland there is also a shorthorn herd in Australia older than uppermill. the present uppermill herd is owned by the porter family in northern Ireland it is now on its 3rd owner being started by the Marr family in 1882 at uppermill near tarves in Aberdeenshire the Durno family owned the herd from 1915 to 2006 when it was moved to its entirety to northern Ireland the upsall herd in England now lay claim to being the oldest herd as it started in 1909 and still owned by the turton family
 

sue

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Thanks for posting - is the spey side also where the great scotch whiskeys are made too?  Sorry off topic.  I will pass on the bull- however I admire the longevity .

 

huntaway

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Duncraggan said:
For interest's sake, which Ozzy Shorthorn herd is older than Uppermill?
I would think its Weebollabolla. Heres a link to there history from there website
http://www.weebollabolla.com.au/history.html
Think its remarkable the similarity between the photo of the old red roan bull and the look of some of their modern sires.
Also some interesting comments about the introduction of the scotch cattle being discussed on another tread.
 

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