Any one know what happened to Origen wagyu sire Bar R Ichiro 32R

Any one know what happened to Origen wagyu sire Bar R Ichiro 32R ???? I dont really understand what they are doing with him, he was heavily marketed as a 21 star genestar bull and supposed to be top of the heap as far as Wagyu sires go. Last time I looked at the origen site he wasn't listed and when I called there they said the owners  (Cattle Development Center of Montana) pulled him and decided "to do some different things with him" whatever that is supposed to mean and I havent seen his semen listed for sale anywhere else at all. Just curious about this cause I have 13 good Angus cows bred to him and i wanna make sure there are no defects. also i still have a cane full of straws in my tank and im wondering if I should use them or if there are no defects if they may be worth more. <cowboy>

maybe they found something good through carcass evaluation and want to develop a product and hold all the marbles.

or, the opposite.

knabe said:

maybe they found something good through carcass evaluation and want to develop a product and hold all the marbles.

or, the opposite.

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So I havent been a member on this board for very long....noticed this is mostly club calf / market show steer oriented. That would explain lack or responces regarding a wagyu sire. Probably wouldnt win many jackpot shows with wagyu influence unless the had a grading contest afer slaughter.

you got a few good responses on the other site you posted on.

knabe said:

you got a few good responses on the other site you posted on.

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yea..got a little helpful info......wierd such a "popular sire" just disappears huh??

Cattle Development Center of Custer Montana purchased Bar R Ichiro 32R, to start their composite breed "Montana Prime".


Not sure what the "other site" is.  What responses did you get?

bt2email said:

Cattle Development Center of Custer Montana purchased Bar R Ichiro 32R, to start their composite breed "Montana Prime".


Not sure what the "other site" is.  What responses did you get?

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bt2email if you are interested in wagyu have a look at this thread http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/index.php?topic=27306.0

What is the most available number of stars possible for grading or tenderness or whatever on genestar

Could a half-blood wagyu.....one half Shorthorn bull be developed that could be used as a heifer bull for the breed? Then all these traits could be infused into the Shorthorn breed that would eventually ride the ladder up to a purebred status. I'm just saying.

aj said:

Could a half-blood wagyu.....one half Shorthorn bull be developed that could be used as a heifer bull for the breed? Then all these traits could be infused into the Shorthorn breed that would eventually ride the ladder up to a purebred status. I'm just saying.

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AJ the shorthorn would have to be really good in most traits. Wagyus are the pin up breed for what single trait selection can do to a breed over hundreds of years. That trait being meat quality. They are frail with no milk, structural problems, poor weight gain, low yield and very ugly. They do have a high libido the ability to walk long distances but do not herd like other cattle.

Maybe I could take a pen of 5 wygu haldbloods to the yards in 2013. Then all hell WOULD break loose. ;D

aj said:

Maybe I could take a pen of 5 wygu haldbloods to the yards in 2013. Then all hell WOULD break loose. ;D

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maybe you could syndicate a bull to a group of commercial cattlemen for 20,000 and register 3 calves in a year.

Just winning the pen of 5 composites would be good for  me. ;D