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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2017, 09:32:33 PM »
3842639-GB Spiffy I would like to have seen this bull-Claydene Everready x a Lazy D HL Quane cow. Hes the sire of GB Daybreak Expresses  dam.Express was a bull ahead of his time JMO O0

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« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2017, 03:57:40 PM »
I believe it was part of a larger body of work that they were doing on multiple beef breeds.  I assume your copy is the same pdf file that I downloaded.  I knew of the study and had to do a google search to find it several years ago, but I don't think my copy came from the Lincoln Red newsletter.  I might have found it in a conference proceedings.

I have seen some of the Lincoln Red cows at Jim Murray's herd and a few in Dennis Hoffrogge's herd.  They definitely have something to offer in a breeding program.  They are a dark cherry red and many of them have lots of volume.  That's probably not a big enough sample size to make a bold statement, but I do have a half Lincoln Red daughter that I bought from Dennis, and I love her volume and rib shape.  She was crossed with a beautiful uddered Haumont cow, and her udder is darn near perfect too.  Unfortunately, she keeps having bull calves.

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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2017, 11:05:44 PM »
I believe it was part of a larger body of work that they were doing on multiple beef breeds.  I assume your copy is the same pdf file that I downloaded.  I knew of the study and had to do a google search to find it several years ago, but I don't think my copy came from the Lincoln Red newsletter.  I might have found it in a conference proceedings.

I have seen some of the Lincoln Red cows at Jim Murray's herd and a few in Dennis Hoffrogge's herd.  They definitely have something to offer in a breeding program.  They are a dark cherry red and many of them have lots of volume.  That's probably not a big enough sample size to make a bold statement, but I do have a half Lincoln Red daughter that I bought from Dennis, and I love her volume and rib shape.  She was crossed with a beautiful uddered Haumont cow, and her udder is darn near perfect too.  Unfortunately, she keeps having bull calves./// Get a good bull calf and use him-That"s how cattle are proven useful JMO

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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2018, 07:45:43 PM »
I'm still working on Galloway Shorthorn crosses. Thanks for the research help. I'm going to use this bull next year, x4253260. 50% Lincoln Red 50% Native, along with a real beefy Galloway Synthetic Minn Max son.
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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2018, 12:51:52 AM »
There are crossbred cattle that are purer than non-asterick purebred Shorthorns. Now with dna technology the funny stuff will probably be curtailed.
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Re: Asterik free Shorthorn X Lincoln Red! Whats the scoop?
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2018, 02:06:41 AM »
Some commercial cattle, certainly, are genetically purer than some registered purebreds....but crossbred cattle are impure by definition. One may say a crossbreed individual is more true to purpose or type than a purebred individual...but that is just weighted recombination. Or, so I think. Improvement either comes from concentrating desired breed traits or by combining complementary breed traits. I just believe one can do both.
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