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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2013, 09:21:50 AM »
I agree that Prairie Blizzard was one of the great ones that was underused. We have some semen on him we plan on using, and I think there is some in Canada.

Can't wait for the results. Your Grandfather is one of the leaders of improved Fullblood genetics. Just an incredible cowherd.
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« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2013, 09:49:34 AM »
Get some DNA verified heifers in Canada again.

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« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2013, 10:07:00 AM »
Anyone know of any Coca-Cola semen out there?

Also, we have some RB8W semen. Any thoughts on him?
I have some coca cola and some embryos might do some trading with you

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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2013, 10:15:32 AM »
IMO, both Darco and Prairie Blizzard were two of the best power genetics to step foot on this Continent of any breed. I feel these genetics were under valued and under used at the time. Are they perfect? No, but they offered characteristics such as soundness (not too straight or arthritic) along with combination internal capacity, milking ability as well as anything imported and should be experimented with. Franco was another bull but have never seen semen on him.

There is no more semen on these two bulls and somebody might be wise to exploit them in conjunction with calving ease and full-spectrum trait selection genetics. Just add them to the mix, for both outcross potential and added performance.
 
I have my 60x cow who usually makes 10 eggs set up to breed Monday for a flush. Should I use my prairie blizzard or something else on my list at hermosacattle.com. Also thought about hauling my slash bull over for a natural service. Her pic is in the add on page 1 of this post.












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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2013, 10:44:08 AM »
Why is the AMAA not showing who the PHAC are? They use to have it on their pedigree search. Knabe do you know how to look it up?
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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2013, 10:46:00 AM »
Doc-sun do u mean 8s?

Sorry. Saw u just updated it.
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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2013, 10:47:43 AM »

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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2013, 01:25:49 PM »
OK. I liked Prairie Blizzard and said he was a great bull but here's the deal... He's a 3/4 brother to Dalton who's a PHA carrier. Prairie Blizzard apparently never was tested for whatever reason. Thought his semen was sent off but the AMAA is not showing any results.

Both doc-son and FB Maines94 I would use with caution! If you have extra semen to spare, I'd  send it off to be tested.

One of the commom denominators in Paramount and Dalton was Univers. this why there may be an issue. Duke of Heaven is also a Univers son but was tested free.

« Last Edit: March 16, 2013, 08:30:42 PM by Telos »
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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2013, 01:33:55 PM »
OK. I liked Prairie Blizzard but here's the deal... He's a 3/4 brother to Dalton who's a PHA carrier. Prairie Blizzard apparently never was tested for whatever reason.

Both doc-son and FB Maines94 I would use with extreme caution! If you have extra semen to spare, I'd  send it off to be tested.



yup.  if clean cows, and semen limited, test the offspring.

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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2013, 02:55:13 PM »
I agree that Prairie Blizzard was one of the great ones that was underused. We have some semen on him we plan on using, and I think there is some in Canada.

Can't wait for the results. Your Grandfather is one of the leaders of improved Fullblood genetics. Just an incredible cowherd.
Thanks. I'll tell him that. He amazes me all the time. I'm learning all the time from him.

Get some DNA verified heifers in Canada again.

If this was directed at me, he has reservations about most Canadian cattle. He is very selective in his breeding.
Anyone know of any Coca-Cola semen out there?

Also, we have some RB8W semen. Any thoughts on him?
I have some coca cola and some embryos might do some trading with you
I'll get back to you.
OK. I liked Prairie Blizzard and said he was a great bull but here's the deal... He's a 3/4 brother to Dalton who's a PHA carrier. Prairie Blizzard apparently never was tested for whatever reason. Thought his semen was sent off but the AMAA is not showing any results.

Both doc-son and FB Maines94 I would use with extreme caution! If you have extra semen to spare, I'd  send it off to be tested.


Thanks for the warning.  :)

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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2013, 04:04:14 PM »
OK. I liked Prairie Blizzard and said he was a great bull but here's the deal... He's a 3/4 brother to Dalton who's a PHA carrier. Prairie Blizzard apparently never was tested for whatever reason. Thought his semen was sent off but the AMAA is not showing any results.

Both doc-son and FB Maines94 I would use with extreme caution! If you have extra semen to spare, I'd  send it off to be tested.


only have 5 blizzard also have 5 dalton. planned on using the no guts no glory theory.

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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2013, 04:09:50 PM »
Get some DNA verified heifers in Canada again.

here is knabe's good polled cow in canada

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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2013, 04:33:12 PM »
have about 30 embryo's out of her.

some are going in shortly by a polled son of 128l and out of a buret son.

not sure of any reservations one would have with that cow.

the thing with canadian cattle, is that they are ALL parentage verified.

if molecular markers ever become useful, this will be somewhat important.

also, for international sales, i think they prefer/require parentage verified.

most of the US fullblood maines are not parentage verified.

it's one of the reasons the associations have not merged.

i sure would like to flush her with dalton, scottish echard and a few others.
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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2013, 04:54:23 PM »
I like the no guts no glory theory doc-son. Go for it.

Knabe. That is one awesome looking cow. She is the reason I like Maine's. You've been holding out on me. LOL. What is her pedigree? Hook up with doc-son and breed her to Darco. I'll bite.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2013, 04:59:50 PM by Telos »
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Re: FULLBLOOD MAINE WEEKLY UPDATE
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