Best PHA & TH Free Club calf bulls

  What are the best PHA & TH Free bulls to use for producing competitive calves in the X-Bred divisions?

I am a BIG FAN of WHR Sonny a great bull. I also am a fan of WHO MADE WHO and his son's.

Bold Statement may be a possibility.  First calf crop is now being born.

Habanero/Lifeline progeny.

I think some of the true Chiangus lines warrant consideration. We produced a couple of very high placing calves at Texas majors from sons of a bull called Flash.

I like Lifeline calves too. Jazz, Dr Who, & Pale Face are also good suggestions.


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  So far, of the bulls listed, I like the Life Line bull best. I have used WMW some over the years, and he does leave good to great females, but alot of his calves will toe out severely. Bold Statement will be fun to watch develope or crash. I read him as being way too straight & posty. Pale face works on some, but not consitant enough for me. Ido like the Sonny bull, but I can't afford him, maybe a son, but then we get back to proven sire questions. See what we're up against trying to find a predictable, genetic defect free club calf sire that can and will compete. CAB

It is hard to find many consistant sires that are TH clean. We have had luck with Hannible on small framed cows and Friction is also clean. I have seen a few very good Friction calves but have had no luck using him. Guess I have the wrong cows or am poor at selecting which ones to breed to him. We also have some luck with Doctor Who. Hope this helps.

  Have used Doctor Who & most likely will again. Problems with him are, won't very often sire stout enough steers, but looks like he will work out by leaving acceptable females, little early to tell for sure how good. He is better structured than his sire by far. Is crossed up quite abit more than I like to see as far as siring hybred vigor. Does give you hair on some. Friction is a good choice. I like the looks of Live Wire,a Friction son that is THC. Has anyone heard anything about any Live Wire calves?
    I was entertaining the idea of using Sugar Ray some. The Chi X deal may need to be explored some again. Where can I find more info on the Flash bull, please? Cab

Flash is dead (a few years ago I believe), but he was bought by Pass Cattle Co. (now Schrick Land & Cattle) and Talmo Ranch in Georgia I believe.  You can find descendants at both places.