Quantcast Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?

Sponsors







Author Topic: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?  (Read 14753 times)

Offline jbzdad

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 783
  • Karma 8
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2009, 07:15:26 PM »
I grew up in Oklahoma... If you go to far east from I-35 the trees get thicker, it gets more humid and it gets a little more "deliverencish"  if you know what i mean....oil prices have really driven up land prices in Oklahoma,probably more than Kansas but prices seem to be up here also..., but prices are probably up where you are so maybe that would even out.... rainfall is generally better the farther east in both kansas and oklahoma.... there is a big club calf business in oklahoma ,partly driven by the texas market... if you are really into shorthorns how do they really do in hot humid weather,southern oklahoma really can be that , north central (think Enid) would perhaps be better, still hot but not quite so humid...would be happy to go into more detail if you like, have knocked around these parts all my life, fel lin love with smoky show steers in Purcell....

Offline PaddyO

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 136
  • Karma 6
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2009, 07:19:04 PM »
Honestly... the south isn't the place.. IF you are wanting to calve summer time, dang it can get so hot. And Oklahoma and Texas is like that.. But mcalister is eastern part, so its a lil better, but its still way to hot...

Offline RR#2 Cattle Co

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 589
  • Karma 13
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2009, 08:31:11 PM »
I would have to say Iowa the climate is very suitable there. Not to hot in the summer, yet not rediculusly cold in the winter

I would say a 60 mile radius of Kansas City, maybe out to 100 if you go East.  PM me for my reasons. Its not what you make, its what you keep.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2009, 08:48:43 PM by Glenstory »
Why, yes, I did grow up in a barn; thank you for asking.

Offline AAOK

  • Forum Moderator
  • National Champion Poster
  • ******
  • Posts: 5264
  • Karma 162
    • View Profile
    • Asklund Acres
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2009, 08:45:41 PM »
We have been kicking around the idea of OK and TX. Don't really care when we calf just trying to have 10 to 15 calves ready for the 4-H kids or others to buy when it's the right season for the calves to sell.
Would like to stay somewhat centrally located to Colorado. Would like to have 60 to 100 acres. Thanks for the cost of living calculator.
Anyone live around McCalister OK? I think that's the name of it. It's close to the Texas border.



I'm in Ada, OK, which is the east central part of the State; 60 miles straight west of McAlester.  Most of OK east of I-35 is hilly, with lots of trees.  Our economy is the best it's been since the late 70s-early 80s.  Jobs are still plentiful, but our average annual wage runs about $28,000.  In Blackjack Oak country you can buy rough land for $500 - $600 per acre.  60 acres of good pasture land within 20 miles of Ada, McAlester, Durant, Shawnee, Seminole will run $1500 - $3000 per acre.  We do have 4 distinct seasons, sometimes all in the same day.  Since we are in the exact center of North America's prevailing jet streams, we have the highest paid meteorologists in the nation, and well deserved.  Our climate is what I would call moderate.  See for yourself at: http://climate.mesonet.org/normals_extremes.html   Surprisingly to most, Oil $ Natural Gas is not our largest revenue industry, nor is agriculture.  Aviation and Aerospace ranks numero uno.  Oklahoma largest employer is the Department of Defense, Walmart second.  We have a very strong manufacturing base, mostly under 50 employees.  An interesting and little known fact is that we have more miles of shoreline than the east coast & the gulf coast combined.

All this comes from a guy who just can't wait to move to NW Arkansas, which happens to be where our kids and grandbabies live.  BTW: I have 47 acres, highway frontage, 6 mile NW of Ada with an insulated barn, great pens, and three pastures; great building site

Offline box6rranch

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 604
  • Karma 12
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2009, 08:38:08 AM »
I really appreciate everyones input! I guess I never realized how much there is to consider. For purely selfish reasons I want to move somewhere warmer. I don't know how shorthorns would do in the humidity and hot weather. We live right off the Palmer Divide almost zero humidity and the summer can get warm but we usually top out at 90 degrees. A lot of our cattle keep some form or another of hair all year long.
The mid west was inticing because the cost of land is so much lower than here. I'd hate to make the move and get somewhere that we aren't able to fit in with whatever the 4-H kids show. We are working on developing a small crop to sell each year for extra retirement income.
We live on 15 acres but we have it set up pretty efficient. Spring we lease 80 acres and only keep what my daughter shows at home.
When we started showing shorthorns very few people here in the surrounding counties showed them. Now all of a sudden folks who said they would never have a shorthorn on their property are showing them exclusively. We don't have any big contenders in CO for competition. Did get our start by going to the KaBa ranch to buy.......great folks, that's another story in itself :O)

Offline knabe

  • National Champion Poster
  • **********
  • Posts: 12879
  • Karma 352
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2009, 11:30:31 AM »
access to water rights.

Offline reno1014

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 166
  • Karma 6
  • Two good ones!
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2009, 03:35:17 PM »
My mom moved us from Jackson Lake in 1976 to West Texas because of the cold winters in Colo. She was a dairy
farmer.  I like it here....its pretty warm most of the time and the people are great.  My sisters in-laws moved here two years ago from up there and they seem to like the mild weather better too.  They found a great deal near Lubbock on a house
with 80 acres...There is land here for sale that is not farm land and it is pretty reasonable.  The show cattle market is
good around here too!  Within 100 mile radius I would venture to say that there are at least 10 breeders.
Its not where you come from, but where your going that counts!

Offline CRB

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 272
  • Karma 6
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2009, 09:57:44 PM »
I don't think there are ALOT of shortys shown down south.
shortys a very popular in ok and tx. there will be 100 plus hfrs at the OYE.

Offline box6rranch

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 604
  • Karma 12
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2009, 08:31:25 AM »
We have family in MO near Columbia and St Louis. I don't know, we probably we end up either in KS, MO., OK, or Texas. I know that's a pretty big area but think it will fit our needs. A lot will probably depend on when my husband can find employment also. We originally moved from Denver to a small community about an hour south of Denver. Now it's growing in leaps and bounds. Good for home values but getting a little crowded and pasture is harder to find. I guess the older we get the crankier we are having people living on top of us :O) I'm totally content to stay home every day and venture to town once or twice a week.
I know we'll continue to raise shorthorns and club calves so staying in an area where that is strong would definitely be a plus. Do you know when county and state fair is in OK?

Offline jrg

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • Karma 2
  • Breed Champion - 2008 OK Beef Expo
    • View Profile
    • Grell Cattle
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2009, 08:59:36 AM »
In north central OK, our county shows will be starting next week, with district shows the following weeks.  OYE is the 3rd week of March.

Offline box6rranch

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 604
  • Karma 12
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2009, 09:59:59 AM »
So what months do you look at for show calves to be born? In Colorado we try and get them born Jan.-March.

Offline jrg

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • Karma 2
  • Breed Champion - 2008 OK Beef Expo
    • View Profile
    • Grell Cattle
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2009, 11:26:33 AM »
August/September

Offline yousesteers

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 192
  • Karma 2
  • shear force out of simmi heifer
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2009, 01:56:41 PM »
I am in NEMO about 80 miles north of Columbia I would say the winters can be bad but for the most part are not we might have a couple of weeks of real cold weather club calves are sold and traded pretty frequently around here and close enought to IA and OK you can hit both markets in MO we shoot for springborns but show heifers of all ages I dont know what kind of job your husband needs or wants but Columbia and Jefferson city both have several options MO would be my option pasture is around and there are farms for sale usually any where from $1800 to $5000 an acre
Like good cattle and Minneapolis Moline tractors

Offline chambero

  • State Champion Poster
  • ******
  • Posts: 3207
  • Karma 207
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2009, 02:18:23 PM »
You mentioned you wanted close to somewhere your husband could work.  Even now, the Texas economy is probably the best going in the country.  Land is cheaper in OK, you also have to look at how many cows/acre an area will support.  Huge variances in Texas and OK.

Offline JbarL

  • County Champion Poster
  • *****
  • Posts: 1677
  • Karma 54
    • View Profile
Re: Best place in US to raise show cows and calves?
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2009, 02:47:42 PM »
north west  georgia
« Last Edit: February 19, 2009, 02:48:36 PM by JbarL »

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
12 Replies
3294 Views
Last post March 05, 2009, 06:22:43 PM
by MYT Farms
3 Replies
1918 Views
Last post August 08, 2010, 03:25:02 PM
by rlo159
23 Replies
10559 Views
Last post December 22, 2010, 01:23:27 PM
by gobigorgohome
1 Replies
1651 Views
Last post March 26, 2012, 10:00:06 AM
by ai er
23 Replies
15938 Views
Last post April 25, 2014, 03:22:22 PM
by Mark H

Powered by EzPortal