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Offline Clark Club Calves

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Re: Black Bull X Black Cow = Coloured up Calf
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2010, 06:32:28 PM »
We will have to see how he turns out.  I don't mind something different.  There is nothing like a steer with some chrome in a class of all black steers.  It was just not what I was expecting. In our experience with the market that we sell into (Canada) it takes a pretty good red and white calf to out sell the black ones.  Maybe some 4-H er will see him and fall in love     If he doesn't turn out to be a show steer he will still press down hard  on the scale in the fall.  He is growing like a weed.
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Re: Black Bull X Black Cow = Coloured up Calf
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 11:04:21 PM »
I'd do like shortdawg said and try to run him as a shorty

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Re: Black Bull X Black Cow = Coloured up Calf
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2010, 04:24:54 PM »
sunseeker=color

100% not true at my farm. Had over 20 sunseekers in the past 3 years at my place or neighbor I AI for. We have bred sunseeker to cross bred cows angus, maine, shorthorn x, simm, and charl. 99 % have been solid colored, 2 solid smokes, and 2 solid reds. Some of the blacks have a redish/brown tint to them. But out of all the calves they have mostly been solid black except 2 smokes out of a high percentage if not purebred charl. cow and also 1 black with white on the navel out of a blue roan cow, and 2 reds out of black maine cows. Most all of the cows are solid colored black or white or black white face, but even the black simm cows with white on them have had black calves.

I would say your red and white is coming more from your cow on this one. I still have seen maines with red 4 generations back throw red calves out of black purebred angus bulls. Just like a Smoke cow I have, the white is 3 generations back and she is out of a purebred angus bull.

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Re: Black Bull X Black Cow = Coloured up Calf
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2010, 10:25:12 PM »
Dyer - spotting is believed to be inherited as a recessive trait - looks like you "got lucky"

http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/CowPatterns.html#Spotted

Spotting is a common pattern in several cattle breeds, including Holstein and Simmental cattle. The Simmentals pictured above also all have whiteface in addition to spots on the body. White spots against a colored body are of different sizes, shapes, and placement, seemingly at random. Recently the amount of spotting on Holsteins has also been attributed to a gene a cattle chromosome 6 near KIT (the same gene as in Hereford whiteface). This random spotting, not including the face is thought to be inherited as a recessive trait.
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Re: Black Bull X Black Cow = Coloured up Calf
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2010, 08:25:15 AM »
Genetics, genetics. You just never know for sure. ???

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Re: Black Bull X Black Cow = Coloured up Calf
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2010, 11:48:27 AM »
Heck, you won't get a nickel for that sucker. Send him on down to CO and we'll feed him out for ya. Save you a boatload of money in the long run.  (lol)
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Re: Black Bull X Black Cow = Coloured up Calf
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2010, 11:59:17 AM »
Man that little guy would bring a pretty penny down here. We dont have alot of shorthorn/look alikes but they sure do steal the show  ;D I would kill to get calves like that
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Turned out well love his thickness (thumbsup)

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spots or not, its  a good one.

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Had one just about that same color we showed this past summer out of Sunseeker.  Calf's dam was black but I think it was here great great dam was the same color and was the first calf that was colored up like that out of 3 or 4 bred that way.  Did real well with him so the color didn't hurt.  Won a couple shows and won his class at our state fair feeder calf show.

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Don't think i would complain about that bit of color.
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kind of reminds me of a shorter spined ravensworth guy.
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I have the worst luck getting black calves.  We bred SunSeeker to a true half blood( PB Angus x Fullblood Maine)  Maine Angus cow and look at the calf we got.  
Oh MY GOSH! I think the term Full blood MA is the key to the color pattern that you got. The old MA are red and spotted--very similar to your new arrival. Also, Sunseeker, is not a purebreed of any breed. No telling what colors are in his background...At least you know not to breed this cow to him again. Try using some non-diluter semen.

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Re: Black Bull X Black Cow = Coloured up Calf Updated Pic April 30, 2011
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2011, 08:53:17 PM »
Updated Pic of the steer on the weekend he weighed 1230
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