Black shorthorns

New herdsire I used on most my cows, bred by Wally Klose

He looks like the useful kind.  What's his name or regnum?

Roan Ranger


https://shorthorn.digitalbeef.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=_animal&file=_animal&animal_registration=4220114

What were the calves like at Idaho Shorthorns-Looked like he got used on some Capiche-Rodeo breeding which awta nick with the Kinnabar etc lines-and the Thoresen type cattle-which I think can be a good mix of clubby-or-modern with old blood-Thoresen seems to breed a combo of what he likes,and obviously wants them thick-Not following trends much from what Ive seen . O0

knabe said:

mark tenenbaum said:

great clean cattle that emanated from TH carriers etc. O0

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absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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When you have the tools, use them!

I think that it is worth noting........the first fullblood Simmental cattle and semen imported into the United States in the early 1970's were yellow and white colored. Seems like the Simmental bred has since made them solid colored.....if not black.

aj said:

I think that it is worth noting........the first fullblood Simmental cattle and semen imported into the United States in the early 1970's were yellow and white colored. Seems like the Simmental bred has since made them solid colored.....if not black.

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when did this happen? did they take carriers to denver?

aj said:

I think that it is worth noting........the first fullblood Simmental cattle and semen imported into the United States in the early 1970's were yellow and white colored. Seems like the Simmental bred has since made them solid colored.....if not black.

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Yes, this is true.  But the purebred breeders with original colored Simmental cattle are such a minority.  The Breed registries really DO NOT represent the breeds as they were originally founded for.

Almost all of the Continental Breeds are so black that they are nothing more than an Angus with a different breed designation.

Look at the Chianina, they barely have to have any Chi blood.  How many breeders are there in the US with purebred/fullblood Chianinas?

If you try to turn the Shorthorn black, it would be the death of the breed.

I always wondered if cattle could be trademarked? For instance. Could say the Angus breed trademark their breed.........and it would be illegal for other breeds to use their genetics in other breeds. Say a "marbling gene or sequence of genes" is discovered......could the Simmental cattle breeders take this gene and infuse it into the Simmental breed via the appendix program. I thought this is what Hunsley was thinking when they proposed the appendix program.

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I noticed that in the upcoming Loving sale 2022.......lots 82 and 83 are bout 90% Shorthorn and black. Females.

This thread started 4 years ago.

Not much has changed at all-Still "contemporary " to breed Shorthorns to Angus Primo and the other bull Anyone got an honest assessment of the Primos as cows? O0

mark tenenbaum said:

Not much has changed at all-Still "contemporary " to breed Shorthorns to Angus Primo and the other bull Anyone got an honest assessment of the Primos as cows? O0

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My two F1s by Primo milk good, and with a neat udder, but I've heard some say theirs don't milk enough. One of mine even raised twins as a heifer. He downsized the cow in both cases, they aren't really front pasture kind even though one of them was an ET from a donor, and I have to say their length of toe is exceptionally annoying to my eye even if it has yet to cause an issue. I've watched two more grow up and go into production and would describe them similarly. One of mine did have a decent calf out of Heatseeker last year, but everything else has just been calves.

Overall they're just not power cows. They're just cows. But, they do breed back without being pampered, unlike a lot of the other popular stuff that has rolled through over the years.