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Re: Buffalo
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2011, 12:39:17 PM »
I used to go antelope hunting on a very large buffalo ranch in north central Wyoming.  We watched them "work" buffalo one day.  They would get them "driven" into traps that funneled into some very serious, heavy duty, steel lots.  Once they were ready to push them into working tubs, they got them into a long relatively narrow alley.  Then they got a big square bale of hay on a big tractor and got behind them and used that to shove them up into the tubs.  Buffalo can jump like no other large animal I've seen.  Those working tubs were probably 10 feet tall.  I was standing up on top watching and one big bull decided he'd had enough and almost got in my lap.  I hit the eject button.  He got the front half of his body completely over, but rocked back and forth before falling back into the tub.  If he'd fallen the other direction, life would have gotten real interesting for me.

It is a fact that Antelope will not jump fences. 

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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2011, 02:31:24 PM »
Chambero is right - buffalo working facilities are tall and made of iron.  There are several buffalo outfits around here and they do not mess around when it comes to working facilities.  You don't just run out on a ATV and get them in, although you might get them to follow you if you have some bait, like a bucket of grain.

I have seen photos of antelope jumping fences and they can jump, but it is extremely rare - they prefer to crawl under.  We started putting all bottom wires 20-22" above the ground because they loosen them up crawling under.  On their trails, we just tie the bottom wire up to the next one so we don't have a loose bottom wire all the time.
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2011, 05:44:46 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2011, 05:50:24 PM »
I always wonder about the bison bison breeding programs. They went almost extinct. Then a few herds were established to save them. Did they try to avoid inbreeding? They had very little choice in matings. Are bison different that cattle as far as genetic defects? Are buffalo ever pedigreed? There was a very small genetic base that they were bred back up from. What about polled buffalo? Colors?

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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2011, 08:06:14 PM »
I have heard that a bison will stand with head into the wind in say a blizzard......whereas cattle will put their butts into the wind. I would think that would be good to prevent the scrotum from frost damage......and they have alltheir hair up front.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2011, 10:24:02 PM »
It prevents them from suffocating in the blizzard AJ, the wind keeps the snow free from their face.  When cattle stand with their back to the wind the snow accumulates towards their heads.

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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2011, 09:36:01 AM »
I always wonder about the bison bison breeding programs. They went almost extinct. Then a few herds were established to save them. Did they try to avoid inbreeding? They had very little choice in matings. Are bison different that cattle as far as genetic defects? Are buffalo ever pedigreed? There was a very small genetic base that they were bred back up from. What about polled buffalo? Colors?

We have them as growers to use on our cutting horses and have had them for 10 years.  We take about 10-12 weaners, we prefer heifers, and use them for a year from a breeder that has about 40.  They are extremely hardy.  Have had just a few cases of pink eye over the years and this it.  We keep them on a small feed lot with a shelter.  They do prefer to be out in the weather.  They are very odd creatures.  They are wild and that is why we like to work them.  A cow gets numb but a buff will always move off of a horse.   Thier tail is an indicator of how they are accepting of you.  A slighly raised tail and they are alarmed.  A tail raised midway and they are getting aggitated and will run and flush.  A tail standing up means u better get yer butt out of the pen because they are coming for you.  This breeder buys his bulls so he can introduce new genetics to them.  The serious breeders are very careful about inbreeding.  We have worked with him for enough years now that we tell him which heifers to keep and breed and which ones to eat.  We now have fairly calm buffs because they are out of such mamas.  I can even get some to eat fresh grass from my hand when they get to know you.

As for keeping them in. Ours are on a feed lot.  We know how to handle them and don't corner or force them anywhere.  Our fences are pipe panels but they could bend them in half if they wanted to.  A loose buff is a dead buff.  They are fast and can run like horses.  They will charge when cornered and have a 7 ft standing jump.  They can shear a telephone pole off at the ground and handling facilities are 10-12 tall. They are truely odd.  when a buff really looks at you it is spooky.  I can see why the Indians believed them to be spiritual.  I call them God's Spare parts.  They grunt like pigs, lope like horses, have a hump like a camel, thier hair is like a wool over the hump, smell like a goat.  Like on the last day of creation God had these extra parts and created the buffalo.

Our breeder has them all sold  into 2013 for meat.  A hide retails for 800-1500.  People want skulls.  The meat is leaner in fat and cholesterol than skinless white meat of chicken.  High in protein.  They are about 2 when they slaughter them and breeders don't breed them until at least then to calve when they are 3.  Is there a market?  Sure is but you have to kill them and take them to be processed.  He shoots them at the feed trough.  Packing houses wont accept them because theya re wild.  So will they eve be a mass market item.  Probably not.  More gourmet but the meat is excellent!  

Buffalo are cool.  Need to be handled as what they are.  Wild animals that allow us to use them for our means.  If we had the room we would have a herd.  I hope the large breeders continue to thrive as they are part of our heritage and really are a neat od creature.
 

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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2011, 10:39:46 AM »
The packing house that I use at Pierce, CO handles a lot of buffs.  Every time I take fats down for processing they have about 30 head of buffs ready to kill.  Funny thing is that the cattle seem to unload out of the trailer better when there are buffs in the holding pens than when the pens are empty.  Guess the sight of the buffs take their mind off the blood smell.
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Re: Buffalo
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2018, 09:02:32 AM »
bump ola
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