Bulls that sired the "meanest" calves

lowann said:

chambero said:

I never saw a gentle Full Throttle.  Not one.

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What breed was Full Throttle?

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Throttle was a Sugar Ray son, so he'd be a chi.  We have never had problems with habaneros, and we showed a slew of them and did very well with them. Never had a great deal of problems with heat seekers and heat waves, most were ok. had a sun seeker that would alligator death roll every time you'd tie her. Get it Done's have some fight to them. I actually showed a triple bred sugar ray steer 7 or so years ago that was dog tame. but yeah the flushes, throttles, sugar ray cattle were promoted as having a show ring cockiness. Well getting them broke enough to just be cocky sure was a treat. those old time chi cattle were just flat nuts. i too had never seen a steer with a ring in his nose til full throttle. also secret service is a full throttle. I was around one of those that kicked to kill when you went to fit him. You'd know it was coming cuz he'd start gritting his teeth. He won a lot of shows, but he was MMMMEEEEAAAANNNNN.....

DeBull............never saw a nice one

I have been raising and showing steers and heifers for 25 years. I have broken countless calves in my lifetime. The all time meanest calves I have ever encountered were "The Mailman". I tried two different ones back in the early 90s that I finally had to give up on. I have broken Sugar Rays, Throttles, Flushes,Heat Seekers, Heatwaves, Total Plays and none come close to comparing. I worked with both every day for a month and the last day I tied them was 30 times worse than the first time. They got worse each day!. I am still confident to this day that if I had continued on trying to break them something was going to wind up dead, and it was probably going to be me. It was the most intense thing I have ever tried to do.

Thanks for the info on Full Throttle!!

Buck said:

I have been raising and showing steers and heifers for 25 years. I have broken countless calves in my lifetime. The all time meanest calves I have ever encountered were "The Mailman".

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Amen!  I forgot about those nut cases.

I will show my age, but I had a Limousin cross  steer in the early 70's sired by Eclair.  He was nuts.  Also saw many Chi's back in 1976 and 1977 during my college livestock judging days that were plain crazy and it usually was a whole group.

JC Superstar, black Chi bull from the early '80's.  Had one that was just plain scared to death.  I went in his pen, and he jumped through the window, shattering glass everywhere.

had a lifeline this year that was a handful.  He bit me once when i was taking the halter off, kicked me with his back leg on top of my wrist when my hand was on the sling of the halter and his head was straight forward, also kicked me in the thigh and two weeks later the bruise finally rose up to the surface.  Haven't broken that many calves i have to say, i have had great luck and get them like pets, but this was the first time i ever had a calf that i was just plain scared of for so long and almost felt like saying screw it. 

soulman. as mentioned above. is the absolute worst. but his calves sure do look good  if you can ever break them. he is no soft little clubby either. hes brahman x

I have heard in the past couple of weeks that the Eyes on the Money cattle were a major problem. Anyone else heard this?

Don't know how I forgot about these two stories but my grandpa had a cow in the 80's out of Sugar Ray, meanest cow he ever owned.  Her number was 40A but she raised the best calf every year. He came home one time to see someone in a tree in her field.  It was the local semen rep who had showed up early and decided to peruse the calves.  He said he had been in that tree for nearly an hour.  My dad used to always call my mom "40A" when she was pms'ing. Ha!

Second story, we're trying to load a red, scurred, Yuma calf on to a scale to weigh.  His number was 78HHH, I'll never forget. The buyer bought him private treaty and came to pick him up at our place but first wanted to get an accurate weight.  The calf would not get up on the scale so the new owner decided to get behind and push, BAD IDEA.  This antelope-faced, psychopath decided to mule kick the new owner with both legs at the same time right in the chest.  This poor bastard goes flying back like he'd taken a 12 gauge to the heart.  My dad, grandpa, and myself thought the calf had killed him.  After a few seconds of no movement, he sits up and starts gasping for air, we thought he had his entire rib cage and sternum broken, turns out he was gasping because the Chuck Norris-like roundhouse kick had caused him to swallow his chaw. (clapping)

This is a good "old post", that until today, 01/25/2017 has not had a reply since 2010!

How about some of you responding to the question...

What bull throws the "meanest" calves?

from some of the more "current" A.I. Sires?  LOL!

I've had two shorthorn heifers by asset, both were nuts.

I agree with a lot of these stories from the 80's Chi Bulls. 

Sugar Ray
Ildeno
Yuma

I don't know how the attitude of cattle today compares to those cattle because I was so much younger back then.  The other thing is that I was clipping cattle all over the country, and when that is all you are doing you get a little desensitized to how bad they may have been.

Walks Alone
Believe In Me

These two bulls (full brothers of course) seem to throw some calves with attitude.  I know that all of their calves are not mean, but the ones we have had have been pretty edgy.  We bought a Walks Alone steer (which I later found out was one that the original buyer brought back) a few years ago.  When he came out to the trailer, we were all climbing fences.  That steer was worked with every day, in a cooler for 100 days, and he just never got to the point that we trusted him.  We got him showed a few times, and took a lot of bruises along the way. 

Believe In Me steer a couple years later was guilty by association.  We knew he was edgy, and never did trust him.

Wow, all of these stories about broken bones and trashed fences sure make me appreciate my doggy, down-headed Herefords!  (lol)

Daughter had a 4-H steer out of Troubadour year before last. Craziest thing I've ever been around. He would take on anyone and anything..tractors and all. Pulled on the halter so hard that it cut threw the top of his nose where you couldn't see the rope and nvr phased him a second. When it was feeding time he'd back up in the corner..trying to climb the wall in reverse and you'd better have your sht right when you entered. First steer we've never been able to break. Needless to say he went sale barn.
    I remember showing myself in 4-H back in the 80's. I had some crazy dang Charolais but always managed to get them in the show ring. There were many a steer from my fellow 4-Hers back then that were sold on the trailer bc they didn't want anyone getting killed.
    I think the steers put out today (for the most part) are much more manageable than back then but that's just IMO.

I've never been around any Patent cattle back in the States, but when I was in Australia they were consistently the highest-headed cattle on the property. I saw a daughter of Patent's full-sib put an old man in the hospital at a cattle show because of the loudspeaker setting her off. I did see one Patent son that wasn't aggressive, and I heard about one heifer over there that was quiet as a puppy, but I also had 3 or 4 Patent/Orion sons try to take my arm off while they were in the chute getting clipped for sale. We had to be extra careful whenever we let them out of the chute because they'd have a go at you if there wasn't a gate in the way. Most of the others would generally walk out pretty calm and just turn away from you without a second thought.

The meanest cow I ever had was Granada Destiny-the dam of the original Destinys best -the bull QH Questing Destiny etc.The 2 calves we got out of here werent mean at all but she was very dangerous. There were 3 MEAN Shorthorn bulls back in the day that passed it on to thier calves-some of whom have been probably mentioned 1: Gr Deamboat 2: GR Combo 3: CCS Stampede  O0 O0

For me it was Ildeno. Makes me think I should have raised goats. (thumbsup)

For me EXT. his daughters were the worst I had ever seen. I actually saw one almost get into a pickup over the side. Without heavy resistance from the guys inside pretty sure she woulda made it. Maybe just me but all of them seemed to have fuzzy ears. I was at a sale a couple of years and was walking through the lots. Looked towards the back and saw a set of those fuzzy ears stand up. Told the guy next to me bet ya that one is an EXT and bet she blows up when I open the gate. He laughed in disbelief, but was soon a believer when right on cue she went ballistic. He opened his catalogue and said son of a $/& you are right she is an EXT. Shoulda layed money down so I coulda donated to the medical expenses of who bought her.