Calving Ease Bulls

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chambero

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I'd strongly suggest just using Angus bulls on heifers bred to produce show steers for their first calf.  There are jillion to choose from.  Almost all of Ohlde or Griswold bulls work just fine along with the most proven commercial-oriented Angus bulls.  Your still liable to get a steer out of them that will do just fine as an Angus steer in Texas.

In past years, we exclusively used our own Angus bulls for heifers (with one LBW purebred Maine thrown in) and got along fine.  You'll still have to pull a few, but not many.  Last year, we AI'd all of our virgin heifers for the first time.  Used Angus on most, but also Rocky Balboa and Hard Core on a few.  We had a couple of Rocky calves just fine, but my last one was out of a very good Friction heifer.  We had to pull a pretty good size bull calf out of her Wednesday night.  Momma is fine, but it was a hard enough pull the calf is still stiff on his front legs.  Yesterday, we had a big heifer calf out of a three year old cow (second calf, three weeks overdue) that I think is a Rocky calf from the looks of it.  Could be out of cleanup, but I doubt it. 

However, I'd also have to tell you that our single biggest calf out of our heifers has been Angus-sired.

As with any cattle, uou need to be watching any heifers closely at calfing.  Your odds of having trouble are less with an Angus.  If you breed them to a cross-bred bull, your chances go up.  This fall, I'll probably just go back straight Angus on everything.  We're going to get an Anchor son we own collected to use on the 55 heifers we have to breed to this year. 

Calves that size out of Taz aren't the norm.

Other "good" crossbred or Maine bulls for heifers:  Dirty Harry (hearsay), Rocky Balboa (I am really pleased with the calves, but I won't use him on heifers gain but will for second calves), Witch Doctor (a good bet if your heifers aren't already related to him), Hard Core (haven't had any calving difficulty on a handful of calves).

 

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I very much agree on using Angus bulls on first calf heifers.  Some will say it's wasting a calf crop, but I can't agree.  As Chambero said, you could get some steers that could go Angus in some places, or maybe at least county fair quality crossbreds anyway, or you might be able to use the bull calves as heifer bulls themselves.  The heifer calves sired by the right kind of Angus bulls are always in demand as replacements.

The other clubby type bull I'd add is Payback - he's consistently been the easiest calving clubby bull we've used.  I do realize he's a PHA carrier, but  if your heifers are clean, and if your goal is marketable show steer prospects out of first calf heifers, he's tough to beat.  Plus, the clean heifer calves should make really good cows.
 

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Last year we AI'd our 1st calf heifers to SAV Final Answer and Mytty In Focus.  Only had ONE pull (easy, strap only) out of 80 and he was an In Focus baby.  Otherwise, we use New Design 878 or 9150, have had to pull a few more out of them though.
 

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I know I have said this before, but ZNT Triple X has been working great on heifers.  The calves have low birth weights, and have a lot of grow in them after they are born.  He is a double registered 3/4 Maine and Chimaine, and is TH and PHA free.  Anybody back message or email me on how to get semen.
 

justme

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Garriott Ranch said:
justme said:
Major's Money Man
Hopefully Mucho Dinero someday! lol

We got two 120 pound calves out of Major's Money Man. Killed both cows. 
WOW what were your cows out of?  I didn't get anything over 86#.  He is such a proven calving ease bull, must have been somethin on the cows side
 

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  We had troubles with MM also on heifers. I lost 2 saved 2. I couldn't recommend him for heifers. Have a neighbor that also had troubles. They had c-sections out of cows. Brent
 

NHR

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Our herd bull WHR Billy Cumberland is rock solid calving ease.

Waukaru Goldmine is another solid calving ease sire.

Both are Shorthorn Bulls.
 

shortyjock89

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CAB said:
  We had troubles with MM also on heifers. I lost 2 saved 2. I couldn't recommend him for heifers. Have a neighbor that also had troubles. They had c-sections out of cows. Brent

Uh oh...we used him on the heifer we have in Duis' sale.  She looks like a big hipped, deep bodied cow, not some clubby pud, so I think we'll be ok...but wow, you hate to hear that after the deal is done..worst part is, we won't be there to help her calve if she needs it.
 

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I regress. I talked to the neighbor this morning and he never used him on cows, but every heifer bred to him either had to have a pull or c-section. We decided to use Gig Joe as a CE Maine this season. Brent
 

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Olson Family Shorthorns said:
CAB said:
  We had troubles with MM also on heifers. I lost 2 saved 2. I couldn't recommend him for heifers. Have a neighbor that also had troubles. They had c-sections out of cows. Brent

Uh oh...we used him on the heifer we have in Duis' sale.  She looks like a big hipped, deep bodied cow, not some clubby pud, so I think we'll be ok...but wow, you hate to hear that after the deal is done..worst part is, we won't be there to help her calve if she needs it.

I'm just pretty surprised I guess.  Ours were all out of first calf heifers and its the first year we didn't have to touch a single one.  On the other hand though, our vet pelvic checks our heifers and we don't breed generally until  he gives us the thumbs up.  (thumbsup)  I still breed almost all mine to Money Man...I did breed my Money man heifers to Gig. Joe though
 

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  Go figure. It's not a perfect science by far.
  Gidget, how's Cathy? Have you heard much? Brent
 

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She has good days and bad days.  I just wish the good ones started to outnumber her bad ones.  I'm not sure what to think, I just worry about her.  One day it sounds like the old Cathy, the next day she's running a fever and hard to understand and follow.  Hopefully they get things under control soon.
 

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  Symptoms sound like me, or so my wife says. Hope she gets better. There's not much hope for me.
 

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