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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2008, 08:01:55 PM »
THE HOUSE- I just messaged you, I sent you our feed recipe.  If anyone is interested, let me know, it's a pretty popular mix used by alot of top producers.
I'd like it please when you get a chance.

Me too.  Would love to see what everyone else is feeding and compare it to my own.

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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2008, 08:02:12 PM »
One more thing, I always make sure they have plenty of probiotics. We burn them out on feed and need on occassion replace the naturally occurring enzymes. You can pick them up at TSC or Sullivans as crumbles or gel.
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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2008, 08:03:44 PM »
I don't think its to high on protein. i agree with the others. move her to a finisher and you will probably see better results. make sure the fiber is below 10% if not lower IMO. If you look at feeds such as Umbargers Cattle Blaster or Kalmbach maybe you can get a better idea on the levels.

Protein is where you get your grow. If you want to increase fat you have to reduce protein. Some of the Cattle Blasters are 10-12% protein. I feed Umbargers and mix grower breeder with the finisher and they like it.
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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2008, 08:12:09 PM »
once again her sire isaf sl sin city and her dam is cf rodeo lila 490 she has great gentics due to calf the begging of june
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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2008, 08:16:25 PM »
once again her sire isaf sl sin city and her dam is cf rodeo lila 490 she has great gentics due to calf the begging of june

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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2008, 08:22:34 PM »
what do you mean??
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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2008, 08:25:31 PM »
He's saying if you don't feed a complete balanced feed ration for the needs of the heifer, it doesn't matter what her genetic make up is she isn't going to perform up to your expectations.

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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2008, 08:51:14 PM »
He's saying if you don't feed a complete balanced feed ration for the needs of the heifer, it doesn't matter what her genetic make up is she isn't going to perform up to your expectations.

The one thing I have always struggled with is feeding to a bred heifer to show. That always worries me when calving.  :-\
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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2008, 08:53:49 PM »
o i know what he's sayin i was just throwin that in there for anyone who missed it the first time lol
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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2008, 09:17:53 PM »
i would also like to her what everybody thinks of her and any pointers or tips about anything you think she might need some work on i know this is not a very good pic but its the most recent one i have
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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2008, 09:22:42 PM »
If I remeber right you feed kent feeds right?? if so which one??  You need to switch her to a finsihing ration and feed her 2-3% of her body weight, until about  3 months before she calves, then you need to back her off so the calf wont get to big inside her

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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2008, 02:57:11 AM »
50 pounds is ALOT of feed, IMHO. If you must feed that much, be careful. It is possible to burn out their stomachs with too much feed, after which they will never put weight on easily again.

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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2008, 01:02:31 PM »
I agree with SIQ. 50 lb of feed seems to be quite excessive, and you will burn the guts out of most anything on that much grain... of any kind. Is your heifer getting stiff in her movement? If she is, it is a sign that you are stuffing too much energy into her. I would suggest that you try a ration that others are using and having success with. Shortyjock has forwarded one to you and it is probably a very good ration.

The only other thing I would suggest is that she is sired by Sin City and her dam is a Rodeo Drive daughter. My Sin City calves have been fast growing calves with more frame than I was expecting to come from these genetics. Rodeo also sired some calves that got pretty framy when on feed. From the picture you have shown, your heifer also looks to have lots of size. It could be that she is growing so fast she has not spent much time putting on some outer bark. In any event, if this the case, she should eventually hit a place where she stops growing and starts to flesh up easier.

I definitely would start by checking out the ration... along with the amount being consumed. Also check out the mineral/ vitamin part of the ration. If this is a commerically prepared ration, these should be already balanced.
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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2008, 01:09:47 PM »
Something doesn't add up here.  There is no way she's not gaining weight if she is really eating 50 lbs of a brand name feed.  Are you feeding a brand name feed here in TX?  If not, there are plenty to pick from but I'd suggest Hi-Pro, Acco, or Martindale. 

Since she is bred, I would not use a finisher.  We use finisher sometimes on exotic young heifers, but you can get them too fat in a hurry.  Almost all bred heifers will get plenty fat without a finisher, especially from a British breed. 

Are you sure you are feeding 50 pounds a day?  Does she eat by herself or with a group?  You mention throwing in some corn and beet pulp?  How are you measuring.

Get rid of the beet pulp.  It is great for holding, but specifically does not help them gain weight.  You can overdo it with the corn.  Great for a steer, not a heifer.


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Re: CANT GAIN ANY WEIGHT???
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2008, 01:29:29 PM »
Are you worming her regularly? If not, check for worms. That was the problem I had in getting my steer to gain weight once.

 

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