captain obvious x shiver heifer

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hedgesjp1985

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Two week old heifer. 
 

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mark tenenbaum

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(clapping) (clapping) (clapping) <party> <party> Thank you for doing what the "PURISTS" dont want to do-They will put Black 50% Shorthorns on SEK-but THIS IS THE first CO ,DRC,ETC ETC or otherwise Maine x Clubby IVE seen-WUTT A BUTT-Im on here because (oh POOH POOH,the picture shows at this young age she isnt perfectly formed on her rear legs and shes bunched up in her front and neck just like CO and Shiver) THIS SITE is really about X-breds of ALL TYPES-and I think thats gonna be a good THICK SHORTHORN PLUS X BRED:that wasnt 135 pounds at birth: hats off JMO O0
 
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Nice heifer and I'm sure she will make a nice show heifer for you or a really good cow for years to come! Congrats!
 

sue

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Wow solid red? I thought Shiver was a maternal type black simmy?  Anyway she is going to make a real nice female. thanks for sharing
 

Stone Cooper

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Do you have an estimate of the birth weight on that heifer?  We bred a heifer to CO last summer - heifer is a SH reg. "Janet - 115" X "Eye Candy" cross.  She is a big heifer - was just over 1700lbs in Dec.

She calved last Wed.  Had to pull the bull calf - BW was near 100lbs.  The head is huge.  I have another cow also bred to CO, and just curious if this is an anomaly or something to look forward to with our second bred to CO.  Second cow is from supposed reg. SH "203" and "My Turn".

Thanks for any info.
 

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Stone Cooper said:
Do you have an estimate of the birth weight on that heifer?  We bred a heifer to CO last summer - heifer is a SH reg. "Janet - 115" X "Eye Candy" cross.  She is a big heifer - was just over 1700lbs in Dec.

She calved last Wed.  Had to pull the bull calf - BW was near 100lbs.  The head is huge.  I have another cow also bred to CO, and just curious if this is an anomaly or something to look forward to with our second bred to CO.  Second cow is from supposed reg. SH "203" and "My Turn".

Thanks for any info.

Eye Candy
Naughty Pine x Galloway (Naughty Pine= Heat Wave x Payback Sugar Ray)

Some of your birthweight can come from the female side. I had a bull consitently would throw calves as small as 60 up to 80#s. Used him on a cow with show genetics in her back groud and she was 92#'s herself and she always had larger bw calves. My first question would what are the genetics on the other heifer?
 

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well-I hope you dont have the same problem again-but a 1700 pound plus eye candy is a big hiefer-and sure must have had some groceries along the way-along with the Heatwave genetics etc in the background-Thats still a pretty good looking calf-and he looks like hes gonna have some substance O0
 

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SC,
Have had several CO calves here, out of 2-5 y.o. ANxSimAngus cows - no problems.  Have not used any SH bulls except Waukaru Goldmine 2109 on virgin heifers, so far - and they get here OK.
It's not always the bull's fault - the cow contributes half the genetics.  First calf crop from the current Angus herdsire here started out with what was likely a 50-60 lb heifer and culminated with a  105# dead bull I pulled from a 4 y.o. SM-cross cow with some Charolais back behind her a ways... she gave us a 107# SH bull this spring.

Commercial outfit here, we don't routinely take BWs - unless it's a big DEAD calf - though we participated in a progeny test breeding trial for a SH breeder this year and had to collect BWs.  Some were by a bull we've used in the past - wouldn't use him on heifers, but have never had, nor anticipated, issues on cows.  No calving difficulties, other than one that had an elbow hung on the pelvic rim - and he was an easy hand-pull after we got that corrected.  But, due to the much colder-than-usual winter, and increased amount of DDG we fed to make up for poor hay quality, calves were considerably bigger than we've been accustomed to.  BWs ran from (excluding a set of twins - 69#heifer & 94#bull) 85# to 107#.  Avg BW for the two bulls tested ran ~ 96.5#.
 

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Thanks for the responses - the second cow bred to CO is a second calf cow - she is a SH X "My Turn" - "My Turn" is a "Who made who"/"Heat Seaker" bull.  But that cow's first calf was from "Warden" - a Gelbvieh Nebraska State Champ bull - and the calf was only 60lbs and was no problem.

It has been 25 years since I did any of this . . . and the calf last week really pushed my memory on all things vet/bovine from when I was young and showed cattle.  So I really appreciate the info.
 
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