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Offline husker1

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Carrying Embryos on Shares
« on: June 03, 2010, 09:32:42 AM »
We are looking at different options in the area of "custom raising" ET calves. 

I've heard of people getting a share of the resulting calves in lieu of a fee.  Have any of you had experience with this?  What percentages are most common...

Any other thoughts on this?

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Re: Carrying Embryos on Shares
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 02:32:04 PM »
First off, I would say get together with whoever is putting in your embryos (recep herd) and whatever makes everyone happy and is agreeable to by both parties would be acceptable. There are just too many variables to completely go through to adjust the value of everything.

That being said, I also am a firm believer of "if it is worth owning, it is worth owning 100% of it."  If I truely believe an animal is worth $10,000, then I should be able to back it up by purchasing 100% of that animal. If I am looking for a partner it is  because I want to "spread/share the risk". If I do not have that amount of money laying around when the opportunity arrives, then my banker should be willing to loan me the money "since the animal is worth $10,000".   If not, then the animal may not be truely worth $10,000 or I have made my banker skeptical of my "business sense".
All or nothing for me!  Give me all of the success or all of the failure. None of that "half of page of partners" for me!

My embryo recep herd has tons of experience putting in embryos, has the BEST management, and have proven themselves over and over. I pay a price over market and implant fee. Nothing else. Every single calf that results is mine, regardless of quality.  In fact, this year he is changing his "price" to a bid off process, with the highest price getting their number of embryos in, then the second highest bid to get theirs in, then the third... etc.etc.   

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Re: Carrying Embryos on Shares
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 08:10:43 AM »
Of course that is traditional, show heifer...but I'm thinking outside the box.  We usually carry our own eggs and have a small co-op herd put a few in...but, have been approached about carrying a few for a friend.  Had thought it might benefit us more to have a share of the resulting calves rather than a couple hundred dollars over market price.

Thanks for the reply and also thanks for the PM's from others.


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Re: Carrying Embryos on Shares
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 08:39:31 AM »
Husker - I know of a deal that a friend of mine does, here's how it works. At weaning time he and the owner of the embryos get togather and go through the calves. They flip  a coin to see who gets first pick of the heifers and then alternate picks from that point on. The loser of the flip gets first pick of the bull calves and so on. When they are finished with all of the picks, they start "horse trading" bulls for heifers etc. I'm not sure what they do on an odd number of calves though. They have done this for at least 5 years and get along pretty good with it. I think the owner of the recip cows pays for all of the expences except the flushing of the donor cows. RW
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