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Here is a video I got in an email this morning. Very scary stuff. People griped about Bush and his interrogation of prisoners. What are they going to say about Obama and his people getting inside your home computers. Probably nothing!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqfuZ7hiap0

pretty scary stuff!

Wow!!  Its amazing how much control they're trying to take.  Even if its nothing more than a bunch of words to cover their butts its still scary stuff!!  Sounds like the old "Bait & Switch"!!  Bait the public with a $3500-4500 incentive and then use it to gain access to their records, emails, etc.  I know Beck is kind of "out there" sometimes in how he presents things, but when Guilfoyle has investigated this and they're reading write off the government website, I don't see there's a lot of room for interpretation.  However, our Pollyanna public will be too "busy" to investigate this themselves and the Liberals will  spin it as "angry mobs" protesting so the "Messiah" , Emmanuel, et.al., can simply keep moving us farther towards total socialism.  They even can give this information to "foreign" governments--what the Hell is that all about??    Perhaps the people who think Obama is actually working for someone else are not totally wrong!!  JMHO

I wonder if they're reading this now??  Big Brother--or in this case, the Big O--is watching!!

That is really scary!  How on earth did this administration get so much power?  It seems like they have been able to do whatever they want and no one seems to be smart enough or powerful enough to put a stop to them, it is very scary!

I am the LEAST political person but if you think this is NEW with this administration you are so wrong. Did we forget about the wire tapes? Listening to peoples phone records and someone blew the whistle because in some cases there was no just cause? Big brother is always going to be there. It isn't just this administration.
If only Knabe were here...(like Superman )

there literally is little difference between R and D.  people refuse to vote otherwise.  that's why it will implode at some point.

I'm not talking wire tapping, I'm talking socializing this country, since January they have taken over the banks, the auto industry, soon the healthcare industry and now this, you don't have to be political or a R or D to see that someone has WAY to much power!

Jill said:

I'm not talking wire tapping, I'm talking socializing this country, since January they have taken over the banks, the auto industry, soon the healthcare industry and now this, you don't have to be political or a R or D to see that someone has WAY to much power!

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And that is your perception Jill. Others may not see it that way. The banks and the auto industry both ask for a government bail out. No one forced the auto giants to go to washington and ask for money. No one forced the banks to take the money. I don't think we are any worse off with the ones in power than we were  two years ago.

OH Breeder said:

And that is your perception Jill. Others may not see it that way. The banks and the auto industry both ask for a government bail out. No one forced the auto giants to go to washington and ask for money. No one forced the banks to take the money. I don't think we are any worse off with the ones in power than we were  two years ago.

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not so with the banks.  don't know about the auto companies.  i think the jury is still out on what happened with negotiations with bond holders versus the unions and why bond holders essentially came up almost empty.  why would anyone risk money when you get 10c on the dollar when the negotiation stipulated you were first in line. 

policy dictates that people need to ask the government for money.  is there an ag person who would give away any of their subsidies?  probably that number is pretty low.  for us, after our pasture money runs out, we are not re upping due to requirements.

it's pretty clear that some banks were strong armed to take the money. in one regard, that may have been a ploy for them not to get business that they should have got had the other stupid banks gone under.  people paint a doom and gloom about banks going under.  it would have been a good thing.

knabe said:

OH Breeder said:

And that is your perception Jill. Others may not see it that way. The banks and the auto industry both ask for a government bail out. No one forced the auto giants to go to washington and ask for money. No one forced the banks to take the money. I don't think we are any worse off with the ones in power than we were  two years ago.

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not so with the banks.  don't know about the auto companies.  i think the jury is still out on what happened with negotiations with bond holders versus the unions and why bond holders essentially came up almost empty.  why would anyone risk money when you get 10c on the dollar when the negotiation stipulated you were first in line. 

policy dictates that people need to ask the government for money.  is there an ag person who would give away any of their subsidies?  probably that number is pretty low.  for us, after our pasture money runs out, we are not re upping due to requirements.

it's pretty clear that some banks were strong armed to take the money. in one regard, that may have been a ploy for them not to get business that they should have got had the other stupid banks gone under.  people paint a doom and gloom about banks going under.  it would have been a good thing.

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I didn't see where any of the banks sat the money aside and held on to it til this could be sorted out. Lots of banks continued with operations as normal paying out bonus and coporate trips as usual even though they had been given money to bail them out. I am not feeling sorry for the banks or the auto industry either way. I agree with you, we should have let things run their course.

Jill said:

That is really scary!  How on earth did this administration get so much power?  It seems like they have been able to do whatever they want and no one seems to be smart enough or powerful enough to put a stop to them, it is very scary!

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which administration and what year are you talking about??....2000 to 2008 or the last 9 months.....jbarl

Since all of their content is BS the Dems. can only bash Bush, that will fix the economy. I wonder where they are going to get all that money?? From the people who pay taxes!  But let's blame Bush! Follow Obama you sheep!

JbarL said:

which administration and what year are you talking about??....2000 to 2008 or the last 9 months.....jbarl

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robert byrd must have cut loose some cherry pickers too.

BIGTEX said:

Since all of their content is BS the Dems. can only bash Bush, that will fix the economy. I wonder where they are going to get all that money?? From the people who pay taxes!  But let's blame Bush! Follow Obama you sheep!

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armies are expensive....we're paying for an ivasion of irag/ an 8 yr war...and that army ( and health care for  all the iragis)...were paying for an army in afganistan...and were paying for the army of the dept of  homeland security.....( which includes medical care for all  3 )....were obligated to pay for rebuilding schools/ hospitals and governement bulidings in the middle east, and then pay for there jeeps/tanks/ guns / ammo and uniforms......plus bushs bank bail outs ( tarp)and all the controversy over that??...i wonder where there going to get the money?>...from the people who pay taxes !..but lets not blame bush??  why not??.....jbarl

Where would all of those soldiers be working if they weren't over there? Obama has created no new jobs. They would be unemployed. Think of the impact our economy would have suffered if we had not needed all of the jeeps/tanks/guns/ammo and uniforms.

Bush isn't in office anymore. Tarp had to be approved by the Dem. led Congress. What has Obama done to help the economy? All he has done is hurt the middle and lower classes.


While Al Gore travels the country in his jet, leaving one hell of a carbon foot print and they had record cool temps. in Tenn. this summer.


I have bought six GM trucks in the last 6 years. My next truck will be a Ford. Really sad one person can ruin a reputation of a company overnight.

How about all of the UNION THUGS showing up and intimidating older people wanting to express their displeasure over how things are going in  Washington. Are we not allowed to have an opposing view point from the administration?

JbarL said:

..but lets not blame bush??  why not??.....jbarl

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blame george washington.  why are we in korea, europe elsewhere.  you sound like ron paul, thomas jefferson before faced with pirates.

BIGTEX said:

Where would all of those soldiers be working if they weren't over there? Obama has created no new jobs. They would be unemployed. Think of the impact our economy would have suffered if we had not needed all of the jeeps/tanks/guns/ammo and uniforms.

Bush isn't in office anymore. Tarp had to be approved by the Dem. led Congress. What has Obama done to help the economy? All he has done is hurt the middle and lower classes.


While Al Gore travels the country in his jet, leaving one hell of a carbon foot print and they had record cool temps. in Tenn. this summer.


I have bought six GM trucks in the last 6 years. My next truck will be a Ford. Really sad one person can ruin a reputation of a company overnight.

How about all of the UNION THUGS showing up and intimidating older people wanting to express their displeasure over how things are going in  Washington. Are we not allowed to have an opposing view point from the administration?

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those soldiers are working for us....war or no war....

wars are expensive..."multiple" wars  are even more expensive......bush's  war ecomonic  polices  have crippled this country to the extent we probally dont even no yet.....tarp was bush's administrations plan...careful what you ask for

if all gore is is leaving a hugh carbon print....then i guess all the nfl/nba/mlb professional sports traveling teams are going to kill us all....

if i had to buy a new truck every year for six years id try another model as well

obama is having his town hall meeting in about 20 mins......i will definetly keep an eye out for the union thugs....i seemed to have missed them...how do i spot them...tee shirts??....hats??....what if its a republican union member...are they there too??>....jbarl

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what if its a republican union member...are they there too??>....jbarl

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might want to talk to pelosi about that.  she seems to think opposition is now bad for some reason.

democrats.  champions of hypocrisy. republicans are simply amateurs.

if you took all the money Bush spent, which was way too much, and put it in a bucket, then did the same with Obama and what he has spent in the first nine months what would they look like?


NFL and other sports don't go around talking about Global Warming, do they?


My wife and I have bought six car and were loyal Chevy customers. Oh well. I wonder how many other customers they lost?

Ask the old folks in Florida that got ruffed up by Union Thugs and ended up in the hospital. I sure you can spot them from a mile away.


Are we not allowed to have an opposing view point?





Apparently the current administration does not think so. Ask Pelosi.

Spector was having a real hard time at his town hall meeting in Pennsylvania. There are concerns obama may be booed out of nh. The segment of people that put him in office who voted for an unknowing change are realizing they voted for the wrong change. Democrats are fearing reelections in 2010. Obama is heading for disaster. I don't think his ideas and policies will go any where.  The American people are proving there smarter than that. Also. The professor gates slip proved just how racist he is. It came out.