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« on: September 02, 2017, 09:27:32 PM »
Anyone have any info? Thanks

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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2017, 06:13:22 AM »
Cates high sellers :
1 - $45K
2c - $40k
7 - $160k
9 - $77,500
13a - $29k
34 - $28k
11a - $26k
16b - $25k
2b - $24k
16a - $23k
10 - $21k
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54 - $31k
53 - $19,500
51 - $19,500
55 - $14,500


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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2017, 08:04:06 AM »
Doc, did you catch the Boardwalk semen prices?

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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2017, 04:24:01 PM »
Boardwalk was $1000 a unit for sexed semen. Conventional sold for $550 and $500 a unit I believe.

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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2017, 05:53:21 PM »
Probably a good percentage of what Cates paid for him O0

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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2017, 07:38:30 PM »
What did 3B (SULL Blue X 119)bring?
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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2017, 10:24:13 PM »
Probably a good percentage of what Cates paid for him O0



didn't he pay 3750?


http://auctions.thewendtgroup.com/cgi-bin/mnarclist.cgi?wendtcattle/20160309/category/BULL


I see leveldale still lists sjcc American muscle.
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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2017, 05:03:38 AM »
What did 3B (SULL Blue X 119)bring?

$7k
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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2017, 06:38:43 PM »
Anybody have results from RC's sale?

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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2017, 06:53:18 PM »
Probably a good percentage of what Cates paid for him O0



didn't he pay 3750?//// If the semen brought $4-5000 or even $3000 that would be a pretty good chunk of $3750-if it was all money O0


http://auctions.thewendtgroup.com/cgi-bin/mnarclist.cgi?wendtcattle/20160309/category/BULL


I see leveldale still lists sjcc American muscle.

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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2017, 10:30:19 AM »
The Boardwalk semen grossed $9150. Not bad for 6 sexed units and 6 conventional units.

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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2017, 04:16:26 PM »

Just insane how who a bull is registered to impacts the value so greatly.   If Id have bought the bull (or even if the breeder retained him himself) and had him listed w/ Cattle visions or somebody for example, I'd have been lucky to sell 12 units, total,  yet in this sell 12 units bring nearly 9 grand !?
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Re: Cates and RC sale's
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2017, 07:32:45 PM »

Just insane how who a bull is registered to impacts the value so greatly.   If Id have bought the bull (or even if the breeder retained him himself) and had him listed w/ Cattle visions or somebody for example, I'd have been lucky to sell 12 units, total,  yet in this sell 12 units bring nearly 9 grand !?///// WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF FREE TRADE-YOU REALLY DONT THINK THAT WAS ALL MONEY DO YOU???? O0

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 04:50:04 AM »

Just insane how who a bull is registered to impacts the value so greatly.   If Id have bought the bull (or even if the breeder retained him himself) and had him listed w/ Cattle visions or somebody for example, I'd have been lucky to sell 12 units, total,  yet in this sell 12 units bring nearly 9 grand !?///// WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF FREE TRADE-YOU REALLY DONT THINK THAT WAS ALL MONEY DO YOU???? O0
That is correct Mark, World of Free Trade !! You can buy it or you can pass. Lot of people want to buy it and ride on the coat tails of Cate's success and use the same genetics and try to see some of the same results. They won't ever see that $160k hfr, but they can get some good cattle. But as far as that semen goes, I would that yes that was all real money. Kudos to them. They raise cattle that people buy for good money and they have good success doing it. They also support several families doing it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2017, 07:41:46 AM »
I think a large number of very high dollar or middleling hi (8-12000) cattle have gone on to lose money for their owners in alot of breeds.ESPECIALLY SHORTHORNS. Ditto for jumping all over an unproven bull for crazy money-Seen it for years.So most of the genetics in the "upper echelon" only are available through breeding shares or progeny purchase.On occasion I have seen some of the progeny here and there Cates purchased and put in their sale-they were generally a pretty good buy relatively speaking but couldnt have (DIDNT) cost much. They have sold enough of those big time cattle that if someone wanted to get those genetics they ought to be able to buy from the people who bought from Cates -or have very "valuable" genetics"etc-like second tier breeders such as-Ripberger,Meyer,Waymar-Rod,etc. Arsulu Tonic was an example of a very good bull bought for next to nothing "because it will bring so much business for your program etc.". Bakenhus was one of the best programs in the breed:and their cattle were WAY worth the money- but diversified out for some reason or another. Actually-the highest quality cattle for the money all things being equal are at Sullivans JMO-there always seem to be  instances when less than $5000 will buy one that could produce an animal that will stand in the top 3 or 5 at the National deals. And the upper echelons of cattle are a pretty tight gene pool-basically Cates, Sullivan, and WHR So I guess free trade really connotes to economically unfeasible for 90% of the "owners": unless corn is crazy high. O0 O0 O0
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