Charolais bulls

was wondering which bull would better for calveing ease and production

Firewater will give you the showiest calves, Doc silver will give you the best calving ease, and bluegrass will be a nice compromise.  If you have mature cattle I would definitely go with Firewater but for heifers Doc Silver is the sure shot on calving ease

I wouldnt call firewater a sure thing heifer bull, but I have used him on heifers with great success.  Firewater daughters are making great cows.  Montezuma is a great bull for cows, adds hair, muscle and the daughters are seem like they will be great cows too.  First ones are in production now, and are nice uddered, easy doing females.

HF got the bulls right. Each bull has his place depending on what you are looking for.  Bluegrass or Oakdale  Duke are roughly equal in their calving ease; both bulls will put more muscle on than typical heifer bulls. Oakdale Duke has a little more performance. Doc Silver has all the numbers for calving and growth but he will reduce muscle mass.  I won't fear using any of the calving ease three given here well on grown out heifers of any breed.
Bulls that should have been included in your survey are LHD Mr Perfect, LHD Cigar, Polled Unlimited and the performance icon LT Rio Blanco 1234.  It would also be nice to include some  Full French and red facor bulls to round things out.

I forgot that some the bulls I talk about are not available from major AI studs.  One bull to lookat not mentioned is Keys McHenry 24M.  In the LHD Mr Perfect line I would look at using SR/NC Field Rep for replacements and performance.

you think that a 2 calf cow can handle firewater or a high bw bull

We need to learn more about the history of your cow.  Did she calve unassisted both times?  Do you know the birth weights on both calves?  How big a cow is she?  What is her breeding ?  Lastly what do you want to do with her calves?
All this counts in mating planning. Firewater is not a hard calving bull but he is only half the equation.  Ask HF on Firewater as he has has plenty of experience with him.

RC DENVER 6026
Any thoughts? His EPD's say calving ease but I am not sure of accuracey. I have a clubbier bred heifer I wanted to breed calving ease smoke.

RC Denver 6026 is a Howard Rambur bred bull out of Three Trees Wind 383 a known calving ease specialist.  Denver carries on the tradition with a -1 BWT EPD  at 0.85 accuracy.  If she is a weel grown out heifer I don't see much of a problem here unless the cow family has a history of calving problems.  Bulls with a -1 BWT EPD have been used on commercial BWF heifers with no problems.  Like i said plenty depends on the heifer here not just the bull.

I would not worry at all about a 2nd calver with firewater at all.  But really what do you want out of your calf, do you want a show heifer, or do you wanna make a Low birth cleanup bull.    Need more info on what you want to get done before I can really say that he is the bull for you

OH Breeder said:

RC DENVER 6026
Any thoughts? His EPD's say calving ease but I am not sure of accuracey. I have a clubbier bred heifer I wanted to breed calving ease smoke.

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Had a smoke heifer last fall out of Mr. Driven (charolais) and a clubby bred first calf heifer (Ali X Heatwave).  Calf came easy and weaned off big.  I beleive the bull added some frame though.  Mr. Driven is a Kris Black bull that is being promoted as a heifer bull.

Another known calving ease specialist with show ring cred: http://www.charolaisbanner.com/semen/kaboom.htm

anybody use SVY Freedom at all? He looks like he throws a good females which i what im lookin for

Friedges,

Every bull I naned is known for producing good females.  But that give too wide a range.  What do you want to improve? milk? udders? fertility?  feet?.  Do you want more performance or muscle?
SVY Freedom is an icon for producing functional cattle but it may be tough to get semen on him.  I would call Dory and see if he has another bull that would work if you can't get Freedom semen: http://gerrardcattlecompany.com/.  Don't overlook his Preacher bull.

Looking to add a little more power to my females and keep them sound is what im looking to breed for

FriedgesCharolais said:

Looking to add a little more power to my females and keep them sound is what im looking to breed for

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I would think Firewater, or Montezuma would do that for you.  Both bulls will powerup cows, montezuma will add a frame score more than firewater if you want them bigger.  Something else to think about, I just purchased the american rights on a canadian bull that will put some power in a set of cows, and keep them moderate and cool looking if that fits your program at all.

OK,

Where is this Canadian bull from and what is his breeding?

do you have a picture of this bull? I am also looking to add a little bone to the calves also while trying to keep them moderate framed

Of the bulls in your poll Firewater would be the best then IMO.  I too would be interested in this Canadian bull if you don't mind sending it to me HF

An older half French Bull that will add bone and butt end: http://www.charolaisbanner.com/genetics/newhorizon.htm