Check out lot 35. Form to Function

Just looked through the catalog and wow Lot 35.  She is a black F1 bred back to a shorty.

I can't see how commercial black angus breeders can ignore something like that. She is cool. Looks like a easy keeper kind. She can come live with me in Ohio if someone buys her for me! I want to breed her to 329!

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trevorgreycattleco said:

I can't see how commercial black angus breeders can ignore something like that. She is cool. Looks like a easy keeper kind. She can come live with me in Ohio if someone buys her for me! I want to breed her to 329!

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Are you golfing or going to the sale that weekend? My birthday is coming up- she could stay here? Lake view, cool summer nights, rolling acres.

trevorgreycattleco said:

I can't see how commercial black angus breeders can ignore something like that.

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As a commercial cattle operator, for my operation she is:

To short of spine (could be a picture distortion), slope of front shoulders are a worry and neck is pinched. Would think she is adequate in structure but would need to see her walk. She looks easy fleshing but it's not known how she has been feed. Not knowing shorthorn pedigrees I will assume she is genetically dirty, since there is no mention of her being clean. That's how something like that can be passed over.

I go to a breeder for solutions not unknowns. It takes more than a picture with a flattering description to place a heifer in a program. It takes a relationship.

Torch said:

Not knowing shorthorn pedigrees I will assume she is genetically dirty, since there is no mention of her being clean. That's how something like that can be passed over.

I go to a breeder for solutions not unknowns. It takes more than a picture with a flattering description to place a heifer in a program. It takes a relationship.

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I don't know about the Angus side & the possibility of defects there but on the Shorthorn side there is no reason to think she is a carrier. There is nothing in the pedigree to suggest either defect. As far as a relationship goes , all the breeders in this sale are someone you could form a "relationship" with if you give them a chance.

good cow ,looks a tad small. cattle still sell by the pounds. thats  my only worry with her. the shorthorn x angus cross  is fantastic.  the 1300lbs. angus cow needs a frame 6 to 7 frame shorthorn bull to maintain real world performence all the way to the packing house.

She is a nice looking heifer,but I am with Torch and Doc.We need them to gain 100lbs per month up to 14 months to make them work here and not get to fat before then.

Torch said:

trevorgreycattleco said:

I can't see how commercial black angus breeders can ignore something like that.

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As a commercial cattle operator, for my operation she is:

To short of spine (could be a picture distortion), slope of front shoulders are a worry and neck is pinched. Would think she is adequate in structure but would need to see her walk. She looks easy fleshing but it's not known how she has been feed. Not knowing shorthorn pedigrees I will assume she is genetically dirty, since there is no mention of her being clean. That's how something like that can be passed over.

I go to a breeder for solutions not unknowns. It takes more than a picture with a flattering description to place a heifer in a program. It takes a relationship.

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I have been breeding these for 4 years. My last steers fininshed on avg 1150 at 13 months on MINIMUM INPUT. Shorthorn/ angus cross. Your statement on her being dirty because she is half shorthorn shows me your lack of knowledge about shorthorns. You should be worring about the black angus in her for defects. They got more issues than Newsweek right now. Your opinion is still your opinion and your allowed to speak it. I don't agree with you but that is my choice to. No hard feelings. That heifer is my kind. I will stick with them.

sue said:

trevorgreycattleco said:

I can't see how commercial black angus breeders can ignore something like that. She is cool. Looks like a easy keeper kind. She can come live with me in Ohio if someone buys her for me! I want to breed her to 329!

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Are you golfing or going to the sale that weekend? My birthday is coming up- she could stay here? Lake view, cool summer nights, rolling acres.

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Can't make it sue. Shocker here but I will be in a golf tournament then to. One of the last ones of the year. She would make a great b day present! I will call your folks and sweet talk them into buying her for ya!

trevorgreycattleco said:

Torch said:

trevorgreycattleco said:

I can't see how commercial black angus breeders can ignore something like that.

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As a commercial cattle operator, for my operation she is:

To short of spine (could be a picture distortion), slope of front shoulders are a worry and neck is pinched. Would think she is adequate in structure but would need to see her walk. She looks easy fleshing but it's not known how she has been feed. Not knowing shorthorn pedigrees I will assume she is genetically dirty, since there is no mention of her being clean. That's how something like that can be passed over.

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I have been breeding these for 4 years. My last steers fininshed on avg 1150 at 13 months on MINIMUM INPUT. Shorthorn/ angus cross. Your statement on her being dirty because she is half shorthorn shows me your lack of knowledge about shorthorns. You should be worring about the black angus in her for defects. They got more issues than Newsweek right now. Your opinion is still your opinion and your allowed to speak it. I don't agree with you but that is my choice to. No hard feelings. That heifer is my kind. I will stick with them.

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My statement about her genetic  status wasn't because she is out of a shorthorn bull but because I don't know shorthorn pedigrees (like I stated before, but hey no hard feelings) so I assume she is unless told otherwise. I do know she is a possible carrier of AM on the dam side. Has she been tested? Just my opinion why a commercial guy might let her go by.

I can understand why you say what you say. Not always but over the last few years" most" shorthorn catalogs will tell you if they are dirty or not. Unless it says THC beside her, normally she is clean. Not everyone follows this but it is the majority. I understand your deal with performance, but honestly I think BW are a bigger problem for shorthorns. We are fixing it. My steers last year would have weighed I would guess around 1300 to 1400 at a year if they were pushed hard on feed. I gave them about 4 lbs of corn and bean meal a day with no full feed on hay. They got fed twice a day. The performance will be there if the cross is right. This heifer is not perfect but I think she is a step in the right direction for sure. I have dealt with the Byland folks and they are good people. I don't know the other ones so I can't speak for them but I have heard good things.


Sue I cancelled my golf tourney that weekend this morning. Or I dropped out. If you want to go, I will come with ya!  Have not broke 70 in 3 weeks. I may be gettin burned out. Need a cow vacation!

Torch said:

trevorgreycattleco said:

I can't see how commercial black angus breeders can ignore something like that.

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As a commercial cattle operator, for my operation she is:

To short of spine (could be a picture distortion), slope of front shoulders are a worry and neck is pinched. Would think she is adequate in structure but would need to see her walk. She looks easy fleshing but it's not known how she has been feed. Not knowing shorthorn pedigrees I will assume she is genetically dirty, since there is no mention of her being clean. That's how something like that can be passed over.

I go to a breeder for solutions not unknowns. It takes more than a picture with a flattering description to place a heifer in a program. It takes a relationship.

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Short of spine- doesn't seem like it, like you said could be a picture distortion. Shoulders- she's on a slope, look at the picture carefully. Neck- again on a slope. As far as genetics, anyone's guess is a good as the next persons. Since it doesn't say clean or carrier. But again just cause I like her doesn't mean anything, it's just an opinion.

Torch- I would agree 120% that it does take RELATIONSHIPS  to sell to commerical breeders.