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rmbcows

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A couple of quick scenarios...

Gray Charolais X cow bred to purebred Charolais bull =  ???  Color possibilities

Purebred Angus cow bred to purebred Charolais bull = ???  Color possibilities

I know what I think is possible, but a set of twins has me confused... searching for the answer.
 

VJ

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My guess is both matings could produce light to dark grey, yellow, or red/orange, brown calves.
 

aandtcattle

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rmbcows said:
A couple of quick scenarios...

Gray Charolais X cow bred to purebred Charolais bull =  ???   Color possibilities

Purebred Angus cow bred to purebred Charolais bull = ???   Color possibilities

I know what I think is possible, but a set of twins has me confused... searching for the answer.
It would be my guess that the gray char x cow will either have a lighter gray colored calf than herself or a snow white char appearing calf.  The angus cow bred to the char bull will have a black nosed smokey, unless the char bull is a red factored char, then the calf could be indeed black.
 

justintime

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Is the Charolais bull white or red?  I bred a 7/8 Charolais cow that showed a slight grey color in the summer, to a red Charlais bull and had a solid black calf. Many of my Charolais cows wer bred up to PB status from a purebred Angus herd. Some of these cows still showed some smokey or black pigment on their skin, that was easier to see in the summer when they were slick.  A couple years after using the red Charolais bull an getting the black caf, I used ared Shothorn bull on several of these cows and I had 5 solid black calves the next year.
 

rmbcows

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Thanks for the posts and I think I've solved the mystery.  Heres what I had going on....  checked cows yesterday to find 4 new calves.  Black cow w/black calf... gray cow w/gray calf... gray cow w/lt gray calf and black calf... black cow trying to claim every calf in the pasture and bawling and running around looking for a calf.  My thoughts were that we had a set of twins and the ditz running around had either forgotten where she put her own calf, or her calf had been doa.  Other opinions were that the gray cow had stolen the black calf from the black cow.  When I went back tonight, I find the black cow still running the whole pasture searching for a calf,  figured my hope that she had just forgotten where she hid the calf was wrong, and her baby had probably been doa and the coyotes had done what coyotes do.  While penning the rest of the cows to move to another pasture I watched this dingbat make two laps around the pasture.  When we went to the far end of the pasture to tag a newborn, imagine my suprise when the dingbat came popping out of the creek with a calf!  Was this calf lost for all that time or did she forget where she put it for two days in a row??  She's trying for dumbest cow I've ever owned, that's for sure. 
I thought these cows should've all been bred to the charolais bull, but after some checking, there was also a young angus bull with them too.  I just figured since the charolais whips the angus on a regular basis, the angus wouldn't be the daddy of many calves.  Obviously I was wrong.  The black cows having black calves and the gray cow having one black and one really lt gray calf should only be happening if the baby daddy was black... 
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.  lol
btw... the cows are calving early.  Earliest due date should've been 9-1 and we've already had 5 cows calve. 
 

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