CRP coming out

aj · Aug 24, 2010

In our area it sounds like alot of crp ground is up for renewal and that a lot won't be put back in. Shazam...the government is broke. Any way.....I spose some of this ground will be farmed and some put back to grazing. The grass on this stuff is far from favorable for grazing. Some people say worthless. I wonder how this thing will shake down. Seems like this would affect cow numbers,price of rent,type of cattle grazed, range mamagement, and etc.. Has anyone had experience with something like this? Could you seed other grasses in? etc etc. Is there any extention info on this stuff?

shorthorngirl2010 · Aug 24, 2010

Quite a bit of it up for renewal around here too-- however, I wouldn't say it's worthless, in fact, a lot of ours is baled into large rounds of grass hay for the show calves. Remaining 2/3 is fenced off as it adjoins a few pastures, and we let the pairs graze it.

simtal · Aug 24, 2010

In NW IL, I heard of some crp renewal that was paying $180 to 200/acre

JAG · Aug 24, 2010

I was supposed to farm 30 acres coming out of crp next year, but the government offered the landlord $135.00 an acre plus a signing bonus of $100.00 an acre for signing back up. I told the landlord that I could not blame him one bit!

aj · Aug 24, 2010

I know I swathed and baled some when they let it out during the drowth. Awful hard on sickle sections and gaurds. Didn't grind very good. The sand grass in it the worst. I know if the one unit I rent comes out and they don't farm it...I am going to have to come up with an additional 30 cows.

sue · Aug 24, 2010

aj said:
In our area it sounds like alot of crp ground is up for renewal and that a lot won't be put back in. Shazam...the government is broke. Any way.....I spose some of this ground will be farmed and some put back to grazing. The grass on this stuff is far from favorable for grazing. Some people say worthless. I wonder how this thing will shake down. Seems like this would affect cow numbers,price of rent,type of cattle grazed, range mamagement, and etc.. Has anyone had experience with something like this? Could you seed other grasses in? etc etc. Is there any extention info on this stuff?

SHAZAAM. SHAZAAM - i Have not heard that in so long, I miss that saturday afternoon tv show??? Captain Marvel to the rescue!

GoWyo · Aug 24, 2010

Seems like a lot of CRP ground is just over-rested. It needs to have the overgrowth removed and the ground disturbed by trampling or maybe even some light ripping to stimulate new growth. I would bet that if you placed dry cows on some CRP in the fall and winter, you would get a nice spring flush of new growth.

trevorgreycattleco · Aug 25, 2010

My whole farm was CRP before I moved in. Cows trampling and grazing and bushogging has done wonders. I always feed hay in different bad spots throughout the winter. Come spring they turn into good spots. Shazzam O0

jbw · Aug 25, 2010

If you get the old dead crop off, That ground is FRESH, As far a crop ground it will really perform. We no-tilled beans into some, went to corn for a year then beans. The following year seed part back down. This allowed us to clean the weeds and gophers up and get some more productive grasses going.

aj · Aug 25, 2010

Thanks guys.....I was wondering about that. Wintering some cows on it with supplemental feeding,just getting them out there if nothing else. I know one guy down by Russel Springs who tied some go back grass to a adjoining native pasture. Over a couple years....buffalo grass started spring up as apparently the cows did some reseeding with their manure( in the go back grass).

Freddy · Aug 25, 2010

There paying high dollar for it here in the sandhills to put in back in corn ,the oness that are suitable. One place had grown cottonwood all over in it an they pushed in a big pile ot two an started farming, about 4 pivots an nice fields of corn, few water hole but not bad....

mooch · Aug 25, 2010

CRP is the worse thing that happened to young people wanting to start raising cattle IMO. However , if you wanted to buy a deer hunting farm in southern Iowa it was a great way to get the USDA to make the payments for you while you sat in your office in Kansas City or Chicago.

HAB · Aug 25, 2010

mooch said:
CRP is the worse thing that happened to young people wanting to start raising cattle IMO. However , if you wanted to buy a deer hunting farm in southern Iowa it was a great way to get the USDA to make the payments for you while you sat in your office in Kansas City or Chicago.

I couldn't agree more. All of the marginal ground up here that was affordable to rent for haying/grazing, because it wouldn't grow the popular crops got put into CRP. The producers got paid a average rent, plus got to collect fees to hunt on it. Great for them, not so good for a young guy trying to raise cows.

trevorgreycattleco · Aug 25, 2010

aj said:
In our area it sounds like alot of crp ground is up for renewal and that a lot won't be put back in. Shazam...the government is broke. Any way.....I spose some of this ground will be farmed and some put back to grazing. The grass on this stuff is far from favorable for grazing. Some people say worthless. I wonder how this thing will shake down. Seems like this would affect cow numbers,price of rent,type of cattle grazed, range mamagement, and etc.. Has anyone had experience with something like this? Could you seed other grasses in? etc etc. Is there any extention info on this stuff?

Maybe high numbers in little areas over and over in the places you would want your improvements. Like mob grazing but feeding your hay through the winter. I'm thinking the cattle can be your laborers. Kinda like the buffalo back in the day when they roamed free. High numbers coming through and eating and tromping everything then moving on and let the ground heal. Just thinkin out loud.

Cattledog · Aug 25, 2010

aj said:
I know I swathed and baled some when they let it out during the drowth. Awful hard on sickle sections and gaurds. Didn't grind very good. The sand grass in it the worst. I know if the one unit I rent comes out and they don't farm it...I am going to have to come up with an additional 30 cows.

If you get more cows make sure they are black. You can take advantage of the black-hyded myth and generate more revenue! (lol)

GoWyo · Aug 25, 2010

aj - you are going to need about 60 head of good black cows (even bad black ones are better than any other color ;D) to get a good trample on CRP.

aj · Aug 25, 2010

The Black Hided Myth Assciation of America would love to have your e-mail address so we could sent updates to you. ;D

GoWyo · Aug 25, 2010

It's in my profile. Would love to receive the association updates.

garybob · Aug 26, 2010

GoWyo said:
aj - you are going to need about 60 head of good black cows (even bad black ones are better than any other color ;D) to get a good trample on CRP.

Aaron and Rasmussen have good red ones for sale. Better yet, get with Padlock Ranch or Dover Ranch and get some commercial cattle with a heavy Shorthorn influence. maybe some Rob Sneed heifers? Don't let theseguys fluster you. I am with you and Sue, and Trevorgrey.

GB

trevorgreycattleco · Aug 26, 2010

RED COWS RULE! <beer>

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