cpratz
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Look really good for a dairy!
Dairy Steer 8th overall at Wisconsin State Fair? How?
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livestockshowgirl
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and another thing for WSF.. our dairy beef have to be registered holsteins... thats why alot of the kids at my county fair dont go because they live on farms where it isnt needed..
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livestockshowgirl said:
does the Hols association even register steers?
wisconsin state fair does actually have unregistered dairy steers. those steers cannot go in the sale and they are usually there for the performance steer contest, which is based on rate of gain, carcass, show, and theres a couple more things i think that i don't remember. ONLY the Breed champions, Crossbred Champion, and Registered Dairy Champion, and Grand and Reserve Overall are eligible for the sale, so the Breed reserves do not sell unless the champion is selected and the judge sees that they are fit for the sale. that did not happen this year. champion was Brock Mays Chi steer and Reserve was Brocks Crossbred, congrats to the May family on having a great state fair. lauren also had the reserve champion Maine and was champion showman for the 12 yr olds.
as for that 8th overall it is not overall, it is just picking sale order. the champion dairy steer, is almost always purchased by american foods. and as to good and finished dairy steers down there. not many are actually where they need to be. and same as most counties. Dairy especially holstein steers that are normal holstein size NEED to be 1600-1700 pounds before american foods will buy them out of a sale barn, under that they are not finished enough, or grading where they should. but those steers that are in that range will have a good size ribeye, as good as any beef and they almost always WILL be prime.
in this state, i live in wisconsin and in prolly one of the most competitive dairy counties in the state. if anyone knows anything about dairy, we have Siemers, and De Bruijn's home farm, as well as some other awesome herds. the dairy steers overtake most of the fairs. our county the steers actually aren't as many as some, but the couple families that do have dairy steers usually have really good finished steers. and our fair also has a overall competition. the champion beef steer, market heifer, dairy beef cross steer, and dairy steer go against each other for champion and reserve overall, it has always gone to the beef steer. except for 2009 the grand champion was my market heifer and last year the reserve was the market heifer.
as to that steer in specific and the county he's from. AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME dairy steer. and i went to waupaca counties show last year to support a friend for the beef show, he was showing a bred and owned maine angus. and a lot of the dairy steers weren't finished as most aren't they are not cheap to feed by any means, not efficient, and they gotta get big, and corn isn't cheap and it's not gonna get any cheaper anytime soon, not with this drought. but their were a few that were really really outstanding. i don't remember who showed those few. but they were nice and finished and the one for sure was grading prime at 1600+.
and yes holstien association does register steers obviously they'd have to, if they steers for state fair have to have papers. everybeef association does right? why would they be any different?
as for that 8th overall it is not overall, it is just picking sale order. the champion dairy steer, is almost always purchased by american foods. and as to good and finished dairy steers down there. not many are actually where they need to be. and same as most counties. Dairy especially holstein steers that are normal holstein size NEED to be 1600-1700 pounds before american foods will buy them out of a sale barn, under that they are not finished enough, or grading where they should. but those steers that are in that range will have a good size ribeye, as good as any beef and they almost always WILL be prime.
in this state, i live in wisconsin and in prolly one of the most competitive dairy counties in the state. if anyone knows anything about dairy, we have Siemers, and De Bruijn's home farm, as well as some other awesome herds. the dairy steers overtake most of the fairs. our county the steers actually aren't as many as some, but the couple families that do have dairy steers usually have really good finished steers. and our fair also has a overall competition. the champion beef steer, market heifer, dairy beef cross steer, and dairy steer go against each other for champion and reserve overall, it has always gone to the beef steer. except for 2009 the grand champion was my market heifer and last year the reserve was the market heifer.
as to that steer in specific and the county he's from. AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME dairy steer. and i went to waupaca counties show last year to support a friend for the beef show, he was showing a bred and owned maine angus. and a lot of the dairy steers weren't finished as most aren't they are not cheap to feed by any means, not efficient, and they gotta get big, and corn isn't cheap and it's not gonna get any cheaper anytime soon, not with this drought. but their were a few that were really really outstanding. i don't remember who showed those few. but they were nice and finished and the one for sure was grading prime at 1600+.
and yes holstien association does register steers obviously they'd have to, if they steers for state fair have to have papers. everybeef association does right? why would they be any different?
cpratz
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In Oklahoma you don't have to register any steers they just have to "look" the part.
RyanChandler
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Lot of holsteins steers grading choice at 12-1300lbs on a whole corn calf fed ration. From the looks of those unfinished steers, the ADM rep needs to introduce them to it.
up here they gotta have papers and tattooes have to match. they also pull dna, and will test it for parentage especially if the steers make sale. if the tattooes aren't right they show as a crossbred for the beef steers or they go under unregistered for the dairy. if the dna doesnt match or other things come back as not right, drug tests, blocks on feet, other alterations that aren't allowed. and they made it in the sale the kid doesn't get any of that money. they get market price at the time for the steer. and don't think the victim is that kid, no they normally know and are well aware of what has been done to that steer, or that the papers aren't gonna match, only one yr that i know of was the kid totally innocent as to the dna test. the real victim is the kid with the next best legit steer in that breed that doesn't get to sell their steer. and doesn't get the money they deserved.
as to the kid with the steer that didn't match and was totally innocent. the family bought a dairy steer, worked hard, got it finished, made sale, sold the steer, and the paper didn't match. they bought the steer believing the breeder that he had legit papers. and they believed it the whole time, to find out the paternity didn't match then when fair went to check the dam the cow was dead a long time ago. the breeder purposely shipped her out shortly after he sold the steer, to cover his tracks. american foods ended up realizing that it wasn't the kids fault and they gave the kid 5000.
were pretty strict and i know its been said that wisconsin and iowa are some of the tougher state fairs, with all the hair we put on and then having those people that are stupid and do anything to win. they gotta be strict on the rules.
i know that in the south they just gotta look it, thats why carpe diem and red rock are popular bulls. you can't register their calves but they throw good ones. i know up here there are a lot of really ticked off hereford people that are questioning the champion hereford steer big time. because of what his sire supposedly is and who the dam supposedly is, also the markings on him are not what they should be.
as to the kid with the steer that didn't match and was totally innocent. the family bought a dairy steer, worked hard, got it finished, made sale, sold the steer, and the paper didn't match. they bought the steer believing the breeder that he had legit papers. and they believed it the whole time, to find out the paternity didn't match then when fair went to check the dam the cow was dead a long time ago. the breeder purposely shipped her out shortly after he sold the steer, to cover his tracks. american foods ended up realizing that it wasn't the kids fault and they gave the kid 5000.
were pretty strict and i know its been said that wisconsin and iowa are some of the tougher state fairs, with all the hair we put on and then having those people that are stupid and do anything to win. they gotta be strict on the rules.
i know that in the south they just gotta look it, thats why carpe diem and red rock are popular bulls. you can't register their calves but they throw good ones. i know up here there are a lot of really ticked off hereford people that are questioning the champion hereford steer big time. because of what his sire supposedly is and who the dam supposedly is, also the markings on him are not what they should be.
cpratz
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I bet he Is a eye candy with those funky colors!rf21970 said:
