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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2016, 03:18:31 PM »
Is anyone gonna be posting videos of the bulls? Miss cattle.com doing it every year.
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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2016, 06:40:44 PM »
Agree, no longer a single place to gather info without cattle.com vids

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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2016, 07:26:52 PM »
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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2016, 07:44:28 PM »
I think I'm going to go back to the last 5 or so years and look at what was said about the bulls in Denver and which ones have stuck around or fell off the earth.

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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2016, 08:02:27 PM »
I think I'm going to go back to the last 5 or so years and look at what was said about the bulls in Denver and which ones have stuck around or fell off the earth.
There are always a lot of great bulls in Denver but to really evaluate a bull then see how well his offspring are doing.

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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2016, 12:09:58 AM »
After looking today a few bulls stood out to me. In terms of making competitive fat steers, I feel that Exit 40 will surely have a place. He's super thick, powerful, and yet not too coarse. In terms of making show heifers, I really liked the looks of Black Power Play. I feel he'll be underused his rookie season because he's not necessarily overwhelming in a given area. However, he's stout enough, square hipped, and shaped right. I'd like to see him stouter footed.

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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2016, 09:19:59 AM »
Semen is not yet available on this one yet, but he is in Denver, stalled with Winegardner.  Great genetics here, already on the waiting list.  Who da Man x Ace, so they will be really high percentage chi
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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2016, 10:15:35 AM »
I agree with BroncoFan for a number reasons, progeny is what makes our decision on the bulls to use.  That being said, we look at the sires/dams of the bulls that make it on display as  well as an indicator of what it working.   Being in Canada, we don't get too many "new" bulls from display in Denver until the following year and by that time, some progeny is already on the ground in the US to help us make our decisions.

As suggested on here, look back by using the search feature and typing in Denver 2010, Denver 2012, etc... to see what bulls are still around and being used successfully.  It's a very small percentage of those bulls that have any staying power and that could be for a variety of reasons.

In looking at bull lists from the past, there are a few bulls that were barely mentioned, but have made an impact and of course the opposite with bulls that were garnering all the attention, but faded quickly.

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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2016, 10:53:40 AM »
I agree with BroncoFan for a number reasons, progeny is what makes our decision on the bulls to use.  That being said, we look at the sires/dams of the bulls that make it on display as  well as an indicator of what it working.   Being in Canada, we don't get too many "new" bulls from display in Denver until the following year and by that time, some progeny is already on the ground in the US to help us make our decisions.

As suggested on here, look back by using the search feature and typing in Denver 2010, Denver 2012, etc... to see what bulls are still around and being used successfully.  It's a very small percentage of those bulls that have any staying power and that could be for a variety of reasons.

In looking at bull lists from the past, there are a few bulls that were barely mentioned, but have made an impact and of course the opposite with bulls that were garnering all the attention, but faded quickly.
I'm just as guilty as the next guy in using the next best thing and have mixed results. 
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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2016, 11:50:55 AM »
The problem with the next best thing is it could easily turn into the next worst thing. If you have a couple hundred cows and use 30-40 straws of the latest greatest you still have plenty of cows left for the proven bulls so if the new stud turns to a dud there's still a good size calf crop.  If you have 20 and breed all new bulls you could SOL in a hurry.  I'll let the big number ranches prove the bulls out for me.

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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2016, 12:22:00 PM »
The problem with the next best thing is it could easily turn into the next worst thing. If you have a couple hundred cows and use 30-40 straws of the latest greatest you still have plenty of cows left for the proven bulls so if the new stud turns to a dud there's still a good size calf crop.  If you have 20 and breed all new bulls you could SOL in a hurry.  I'll let the big number ranches prove the bulls out for me.
We're going that direction too.

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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2016, 02:04:26 PM »
IMO, the show steer bull market is a bit like the stock market, the hype of the IPO crates a frenzy and the prices fall after that, only to reach parity a number of years later, if he performs!
From there, it is a case of shooting the lights out if he produced a winner, or, failing that, a life of obscurity.
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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2016, 06:15:10 PM »
I checked out the bulls today... I've never seen a clubby bull on display in person before. It was an eye opener to realize how misleading the pictures are! I was surprised with how small the bulls all were for their ages, and really is a testament to the progress some purebred breeders have made with commercial production in mind. Still had a fun time in the yards today.

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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2016, 07:06:36 PM »
How's that mab look slicked off? I'm sure they didn't get his legs or his tailhead since that's usually where the boys seperate from the men on slick cattle but curious to see how That one turned out even Half ass done
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Re: Denver 2016 Bulls
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2016, 10:56:13 PM »
Looked at bulls today and I'm truly impressed with Mid Continents ROCKSTAR and I was also pretty high on Exit 40 too. Others I wasn't too big on. Really wanted to see In God We Trust but he must not be in Denver think he could be the next slick shear beast got us southern boys.

 

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