DF Waco x WF Athena W50H Shorthorn Bull Picture

JTM · Jan 24, 2013

Here is one of the two full sib April 2012 bulls that we have. They are both sired by DF Waco (now deceased) and out of our Australian outcross donor WF Athena W50 (also deceased). This is tag 213 and tag 211 is very similar in type. They were going to go to the Ohio Beef Expo but decided not to. Let me know what you think...

blackdiamond · Jan 24, 2013

behind view?

Either the shoulder, or for-rib needs work from this angle, in my eyes...

interesting pedigree, might really work with some time... (pop)

JTM · Jan 25, 2013

I agree his shoulder isn't the calving ease type. He had about 5 inches of hair all over him. Those legs have no glue in them, they just had 5 inches of hair we took off. We are amature clippers also. So the front end was completely ripped off a week ago and then we tried to blend in the shoulders and didn't turn out very good. So some of what you are seeing is the lack of blending properly.

Bilmar · Jan 25, 2013

He looks good,what's bw ?

blackdiamond · Jan 25, 2013

JTM said:
I agree his shoulder isn't the calving ease type. He had about 5 inches of hair all over him. Those legs have no glue in them, they just had 5 inches of hair we took off. We are amature clippers also. So the front end was completely ripped off a week ago and then we tried to blend in the shoulders and didn't turn out very good. So some of what you are seeing is the lack of blending properly.

sounds like somethign I'd do. (clapping)

Ohio1 · Jan 25, 2013

JTM said:
I agree his shoulder isn't the calving ease type. He had about 5 inches of hair all over him. Those legs have no glue in them, they just had 5 inches of hair we took off. We are amature clippers also. So the front end was completely ripped off a week ago and then we tried to blend in the shoulders and didn't turn out very good. So some of what you are seeing is the lack of blending properly.

You could use a guard on his neck and shoulders to blend also if you don't feel comfortable with just a blade ;D

sue · Jan 25, 2013

The Athena's were my favorites a JT Morelands.

JTM · Jan 25, 2013

Bilmar Shorthorns said:
He looks good,what's bw ?

Born on 4/18/12 and his birthweight was 95 lbs. The other bull, tag 211, was 91 lbs.

Ohio1 said:
JTM said:

I agree his shoulder isn't the calving ease type. He had about 5 inches of hair all over him. Those legs have no glue in them, they just had 5 inches of hair we took off. We are amature clippers also. So the front end was completely ripped off a week ago and then we tried to blend in the shoulders and didn't turn out very good. So some of what you are seeing is the lack of blending properly.

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You could use a guard on his neck and shoulders to blend also if you don't feel comfortable with just a blade ;D

Haha, yeah, we have one but it's a long story. (lol)

sue said:
The Athena's were my favorites a JT Morelands.

Thanks Sue! Athena produced until she was over 13 years old and one of her best flushes was her last the winter before she died. The Thelma cow family is pretty touted in Australia as real performers from what I have heard. I think these bulls are pretty special and unique..

JTM · Jan 25, 2013

blackdiamond: Here is a rear view of him.

blackdiamond · Jan 26, 2013

really makes the bull look better from this angle... shoulder lays in nice enough, and he's got some meat on those bones...

(clapping)

Interesting pedigree, should do you well...

PS, I'll take a heifer calf from that mating

JTM · Jan 29, 2013

blackdiamond said:
really makes the bull look better from this angle... shoulder lays in nice enough, and he's got some meat on those bones...

(clapping)

Interesting pedigree, should do you well...

PS, I'll take a heifer calf from that mating

I'll take a heifer calf out of any of my matings!!! Being that we are 7 for 7 bull calves this year so far! grrrrr! Oh well. Anyway jump on over to the classifieds if you like him.

RyanChandler · Jan 29, 2013

Sounds about right . Bulls 12 heifers 2 for me. :-\

blackdiamond · Jan 29, 2013

Now Josh, I know you flushed with a bunch of sexed Waco semen last year-- and I'm guessing it wasn't male swimmers...

JTM · Jan 29, 2013

-XBAR- said:
Sounds about right . Bulls 12 heifers 2 for me. :-\

Wow! I guess I should count my blessings and hope for a better ratio than that... Sure makes it tough when you are trying to expand a herd and make changes.

blackdiamond said:
Now Josh, I know you flushed with a bunch of sexed Waco semen last year-- and I'm guessing it wasn't male swimmers...

Yeah we flushed with 4 sexed heifer straws and 1 conventional. The conventional seems to have been won on the first two pregnancies. That's why I never marketed the eggs as solely sexed heifer eggs... I've got one more still to go and I'm hoping it's a heifer because by the looks of the bull calves it's going to be a good one.

blackdiamond · Jan 29, 2013

JTM said:
-XBAR- said:

Sounds about right . Bulls 12 heifers 2 for me. :-\

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Wow! I guess I should count my blessings and hope for a better ratio than that... Sure makes it tough when you are trying to expand a herd and make changes.

Ya but look at it like I do now-- easy to save money, and not have to pick which females to grow out and keep back

For years, i bitched and bitched about not getting ewe lambs- finally decided ram lambs were so much better-- keep them until weaning- sort he great ones- and ship everything else. Make money off them-- since, I've been getting quite a few ewe lambs born

and man does the feed bill like it: Feed's expensive, whether it's grass, hay, or grain O0

OH Breeder · Jan 29, 2013

3 heifers so far this year. about 15 to go.

JTM

I think the bull demonstrates what most of us look for in a young herd sire- masculinity. I think over time he will grow into that shoulder which I think might be soften up with additional trimming after seeing rear angle. I like his head design and coloring. I also think he offers a much needed twist on infusing some out-cross genetics on his momma's side. Look forward to catching up with you all at Expo.

worthabit · Jan 29, 2013

-XBAR- said:
Sounds about right . Bulls 12 heifers 2 for me. :-\
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33 calves so far and 23 bulls.

JTM · Feb 13, 2013

We are now 9 for 9 bull calves so far this year.

Here is a picture of the June Star Bucks x Jake's Proud Jazz( Sonny x Dream Lady) bull calf that we currently have along with the Waco's.

J2F · Feb 13, 2013

JTM said:
We are now 9 for 9 bull calves so far this year.

Here is a picture of the June Star Bucks x Jake's Proud Jazz( Sonny x Dream Lady) bull calf that we currently have along with the Waco's.

If you go to AC to visit your bro please go across 35 and down. Stay off 32 and away from BC I don't want what ever it is your herd has!!!9 for 9 change the water...

joking of coarse. Goooood looking bulls hope you find homes for them. Wish I was in the market but not quite yet.

thunderdownunder · Feb 13, 2013

JTM said:
Thanks Sue! Athena produced until she was over 13 years old and one of her best flushes was her last the winter before she died. The Thelma cow family is pretty touted in Australia as real performers from what I have heard. I think these bulls are pretty special and unique..

Can you tell me about this Athena cow? I haven't heard of the Thelma family...

DF Waco x WF Athena W50H Shorthorn Bull Picture

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