Been thinking of flushing a couple of our cows (our first forray into ET work), but I don't have the recips available right now to implant. What do most of you who flush cows do for storage of your embryo's? If you have a place store them for you, what's the average cost/egg?
Embryo Storage
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WWS
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Ours are around $40 to freeze but storage is free and ours will allow us to store other embryos in his tanks or we just store them in our own semen tanks.
justintime
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I learned a major lesson when I started doing ET as I was storing my embryos in my own tank on the farm. I had a tank rupture and lose the nitrogen and you guessed it... it contained 38 embryos, and about 200 doses of semen. I hate to think what this semen and embryos would be worth today. I have 8 semen tanks and this is the only tank I have ever had any problems with. From that day on, I store all my embryos at the ET center. We also wash all our embryos so that they are exportable to most countries, and that is another reason I store them there. If I stored them in my own tank, they would lose their export status. When I started doing ET, the export market was not a consideration to me. A few years later now, I sell more embryos internationally than I do here each year.
I looked into seeing if my farm insurance would cover loss of embryos and semen stored in my tanks at home. It is possible to get insurance for this, however the additional premium would bevery close to the same as the storage charges at the ET center. I also like the fact that when the embryos are stored at the ET center, it is only professionals who ever handle them.
I looked into seeing if my farm insurance would cover loss of embryos and semen stored in my tanks at home. It is possible to get insurance for this, however the additional premium would bevery close to the same as the storage charges at the ET center. I also like the fact that when the embryos are stored at the ET center, it is only professionals who ever handle them.
justintime said:
Hey JIT, this is the insurance agent in my talking now - check to see if your farm insurance policy has a clause for equipment breakdown. Most of my farm companies are beginning to offer it. This endorsement will cover the contents of a semen tank in the event of rupture or malfunction. With a majority of my companies it is either included for 'free', or else it is relatively inexpensive (between 50-100/year).
When you guys say $50/egg, is that for a year or for lifetime?
vcsf
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klintdog said:
Would you mind expanding on this clause for equipment breakdown. I have always been told that they won't cover any mechanical problems.
I believe the $40 or $50 per egg being mentioned is the freezing cost not storage. Storage costs would probably be very similar to semen storage and some ET companies will provide free storage providing you are continually doing work and implanting some regularly.
Equipment breakdown is a relatively new coverage for farm policies. It was used quite a bit on commercial policies in the past. The way it works is that if a mechanical breakdown were to occur that renders a piece of vital equipment unusable, the insurance policy kicks in. For instance, if you have a deep well pump that goes out, the coverage would pay to have the pump removed and replaced. Similarly, if you are running a dairy and your tank cooler quit, the coverage would pay for the pump and your loss of income portion should pay for the lost milk proceeds.
Of course, every company is different on what they offer and how they handle claims. Typically this isn't going to cover farm machinery either.
Of course, every company is different on what they offer and how they handle claims. Typically this isn't going to cover farm machinery either.
vcsf
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klintdog said:
Thank you for the explanation. A lot of the time our insurance agent seems to have trouble answering questions about some stuff that they don't deal with very often. Haven't inquired for quite awhile but last time did was told that semen tank and contents could not be insured for tank failure.
Some insurance things baffle me. Few years ago I wrecked sprayer which wasn't a problem. Got paid for sprayer and even the chemical in it without problem. We also have coverage for loss of use but insurance would only pay for use to rent a sprayer not to hire a custom applicator. However they never questioned the rental rate as long as the bill said it was for sprayer rental.
Jill
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Our facility charges 50/year for all of the embryo's you have stored there, much cheaper than having a tank filled every 16 weeks. We have 10-20 here in our tank that we bring home to implant, but the rest are stored.
uluru
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I have embarked on a pretty aggressive Embryo Recovery Program and it is all done by the professionals at the Genetics place that I use.
They do all the work and as JIT has said only professionals handle the embryos.
Mine are all washed for export and they also have the ability to handle the export permits, shipping, etc.
They store the embryos free of charge for me as they do all the work in the boarding, set up, AIing of the donors and the recovery and freezing of the embryos.
They do not insure the embryos and advised me of that upfront.
I am still trying to sort out the insurance issues around these embryos and must get it done soon before I have a wreck.
Right now some are insured on a tank policy but that will soon not be enough.
They do all the work and as JIT has said only professionals handle the embryos.
Mine are all washed for export and they also have the ability to handle the export permits, shipping, etc.
They store the embryos free of charge for me as they do all the work in the boarding, set up, AIing of the donors and the recovery and freezing of the embryos.
They do not insure the embryos and advised me of that upfront.
I am still trying to sort out the insurance issues around these embryos and must get it done soon before I have a wreck.
Right now some are insured on a tank policy but that will soon not be enough.
WWS
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Our semen tanks at home are covered under our farm insurance because for the value of all the semen and embryos on hand it is minimal expense per year to cover them incase of an accident.
