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Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« on: March 28, 2019, 04:46:35 PM »
Dealer here is selling mineral with garlic in it. I think it is Suthers. Anybody tried it for fly control?
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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2019, 08:52:25 PM »
I know vitaferm makes a mineral they call "heat" that also has garlic in it for fly control.  It has a lot of good reviews. 
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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2019, 04:46:16 AM »
I know vitaferm makes a mineral they call "heat" that also has garlic in it for fly control.  It has a lot of good reviews.
I thought the garlic was in it to help with fescue toxicity?
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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2019, 06:08:33 AM »
Doc, I know that is a big part of "heats" purpose is to help with managing fescue intake, but I think the added garlic is mainly for fly control during summer months.
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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2019, 08:00:35 AM »
I wasn't clear on how it works. Does the cow put off a garlic odor? Or does the garlic keep flies out of the cow pie?
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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2019, 11:37:12 AM »
From Vitaferm's website:

VitaFerm HEAT is a line of vitamin and mineral supplements for beef cattle used to reduce heat stress during temperatures of 70 degrees and above, or anytime cattle are grazing fescue. Contains the Amaferm advantage and Capsaicin, both research-proven to lower body temperature, which can improve conception rates by maintaining pregnancy. Includes garlic, a natural insect repellent.

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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2019, 11:38:59 AM »
Sorry,  I tried to highlight the garlic part and made it almost impossible to read.

VitaFerm HEAT is a line of vitamin and mineral supplements for beef cattle used to reduce heat stress during temperatures of 70 degrees and above, or anytime cattle are grazing fescue. Contains the Amaferm advantage and Capsaicin, both research-proven to lower body temperature, which can improve conception rates by maintaining pregnancy. Includes garlic, a natural insect repellent.

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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2019, 07:28:21 AM »
Thanks.
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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2019, 08:33:04 AM »
One article I read.........garlic doesn't reduce fly numbers but the flies don't land on the cattle as much. I assume the flies woudn't develop a resistance to Garlic? Maybe flies from Italy would dig garlic.
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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2019, 10:29:39 AM »
Momma Mia
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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2019, 09:51:15 AM »
I have fed and will feed again this summer the VF minerals with HEAT. Outstanding products and the benefits of HEAT and Amafirm are visible in the cattle. As for the garlic I really couldn't tell any difference one way or the other from a fly control standpoint.

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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2019, 10:50:20 AM »
I'm not saying that this is not a great product, but what I will say, as far as there being much validity to any of the reviews we see anymore, I believe about zero percent of them. The companies are writing their own reviews or hiring people to do so. There is little doubt about that.

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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2019, 09:03:37 AM »
Good post CAB.

Ill take it farther and say all these products are complete ****.   Not because theyre not made with quality ingredients or because they dont fulfill their claims, but rather because they disguise and conceal the inferior specimens within your cowherd.   Imagine that paying money out of your pocket to conceal problem animals.  It makes no sense whatsoever.    Find cows that can cut it on whatever nutritional profile your farm offers and quit wasting your money on these products.   I want to know which of my cows are no good- impossible to do when theres  a band aid thrown at every short coming.
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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2019, 10:42:42 AM »
Good point.

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Re: Garlic in mineral for fly control?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2019, 01:21:16 PM »
Kit Pharo has a theory that some cows are genetically resistant to flys...........if memory serves........more hair follicles per square inch. Xbar.......are thinking along those lines. I would agree that flies may become resistant to IGR and other chemical. Since garlic is natural.........this interests me.  I guess my brother used used the heat product here in Kansas last summer and he thought it made a difference.
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