I would like to know if anyone has crossed Gelbvieh with Maine and if so how it turned out. Thinking about trying RCMP Y2K Sebastian. any thoughts would be appreicated. I'm trying to get some replacement heifers to use as club calf mamas. Newbie to the game
Has anyone crossed Gelbvieh with Maine
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Gelbvieh cattle do not have as much "inside lower rear quarter muscle" as some other breeds. Therefore, Gelbvieh do not normally work well when breeding for club calves, or to make club calf mama cows, in comparison to some other cattle breeds. IMHO
Gelbvieh cattle do not have as much "inside lower rear quarter muscle" as some other breeds. Therefore, Gelbvieh do not normally work well when breeding for club calves, or to make club calf mama cows, in comparison to some other cattle breeds. IMHO
LLBUX
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How about Galloway?
Think of the hair!
Think of the hair!
knabe
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SEA said:
i remember some old fullblood gelbvieh's that had plenty of lower, inner quarter, specifically a bull called cowboy that did as well as some fullbloods that van horn used to have that sold out and were converted to blacks and probably lost near san luis obispo california in the late 80's.
aandtcattle
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We had Cowboy daughters as well as daughters of several of the other older fullblood gelbvieh bulls. They were good as far as mama cows but I think they would be far too big for today's club calf market. The modern gelbviehs in my opinion suck! Good luck finding gelbvieh genetics produced in the last 15 years that have anything to offer to any part of the beef industry. Gelbvieh is another breed that flushed all of the good they had down the toilet in search of polled and black! Way to go Gelbvieh! (clapping)
LostFarmer
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From what I have seen the tried and tested model is a cross that picks up some Maine, Angus, Simi and sometimes a little Chi or Shorthorn. The percentages vary but the combination is one that works. Meyer and Who as a combination seems to work with some repeatability. The missing link in most of the clubby world getting consistency.
If you want to try a Galloway also look at Welsh Black. Alta Genetics has a Welsh Black Bull called CARW GLYN ULTIMATE 66U that I think would work with Maine Genetics. Look him up on their website: http://www.altabeef.com/SireDirectory/
More Welsh Black and Galloway Cattle, a bull sale catalog: http://www.kaiserscelticcattle.com/kaiser2010.pdf
More Welsh Black and Galloway Cattle, a bull sale catalog: http://www.kaiserscelticcattle.com/kaiser2010.pdf
SIMMY BREEDER
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aandtcattle said:
Had a chance to work on this Balancer gelbvieh bull this year and I think he will work on about any kind of cow, moderate 5.0, massive, sound, and a big ol butt!! seen his first calves and they were cool and 75-80lbs
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aandtcattle
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Nice Balancer bull. He aint no purebred though. That's what I mean, the Gelbvieh breed has evolved to the point where they need other breeds crossed into it to make them worth a crap.
HAB
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For Gelbviehs with more butt end check out the herd sires from Davidson Gelbvieh: http://www.davidsongelbvieh.com/bulls.htm look at DVE Davidson PLD Mark 194P and the black bull DVE Davidson Design 85P.
To Bas: I would need to know some details and info on your Maine Cow. i.e.
1. Frame size
2. Depth of body and rib
3. Ease of fleshing
4. Milk and udder
5. Front end
6. Amount of thickness
7. How structurally correct, is she straight on her legs
8. What has she been bred to in the past and how did those matings work
1. Frame size
2. Depth of body and rib
3. Ease of fleshing
4. Milk and udder
5. Front end
6. Amount of thickness
7. How structurally correct, is she straight on her legs
8. What has she been bred to in the past and how did those matings work
SIMMY BREEDER
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shufly said:
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FJBogey
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We had good luck breeding some of our GelbviehxAngus cows to clubbies. Had three different steers that were pretty good, one by Heatseeker and two by Heatwave. These were really solid county fair type steers, not freaky jackpot calves though. These Balancer cows were also from older Gelbvieh genetics, as others have mentioned the "newer" genetics are not as good. Agree with that, they have bred most of the good Gelbvieh qualities out trying to achieve the black and polled factor. Two of our three steers mentioned above were red and one was black. Also had a good Sunseeker heifer out of a Balancer cow (grey) that is a great cow herself.
cattlemanr
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We have been doing it for several years. Females make awsome Replacements and the steers perform extremely well. This Bull Just sold in our Annual Bull Sale.
Discovery X Balancer Cow
http://pearsoncattleco.com/forsale.html
Discovery X Balancer Cow
http://pearsoncattleco.com/forsale.html
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