heat wave dead or alive

I'd say Heatwave is running around in Elvis' pasture.

saw two heat wave cows today. 

gotta say, they had no milk. 

their calves were stealing milk of the two cows i sold into the herd. 

really sad. 

it appears people are able to sell these females over the internet.

expensive lesson for the buyer, good recovery for the seller.

knabe said:

saw two heat wave cows today. 

gotta say, they had no milk. 

their calves were stealing milk of the two cows i sold into the herd. 

really sad. 

it appears people are able to sell these females over the internet.

expensive lesson for the buyer, good recovery for the seller.

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hey, if you know of anyone that has a great heat wave heifer they want to unload, I am a buyer.

instead of buying a bottle calf, people should just buy a dairy cow who lost her calf so all the babies out of heat wave momma's will have some food.

knabe said:

instead of buying a bottle calf, people should just buy a dairy cow who lost her calf so all the babies out of heat wave momma's will have some food.

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ET to a dairy cow?

FutureBreeder said:

knabe said:

instead of buying a bottle calf, people should just buy a dairy cow who lost her calf so all the babies out of heat wave momma's will have some food.

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ET to a dairy cow?

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=SCOURS.

To much milk for em to handle?

FutureBreeder said:

To much milk for em to handle?

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Not to mention that all the maternal ability has been bred out of modern dairy cows.

FutureBreeder said:

To much milk for em to handle?

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Ya I'd say. You put an ET calf on a dairy cow and 9 times out of 10 you're going to run into scours.

Well won't the scours eventually clear up after he adjusts to it

Show stopper 95 said:

Well won't the scours eventually clear up after he adjusts to it

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Maybe...if the calf doesn't sh!t itself to death first.  I'm tellin ya though, dairy cows do not make good recips. They don't even make good moms for their own calves.

ya there is no maternal traits in the dairy's

Holstein no, but what about a Milking Shorthorn or a Brown Swiss?  Big enough to handle club calf breeding, don't milk enough to cause scours?  Not inbred like the holsteins so still have enough natural instincts in them?  Am I way off base?

it never gets me at how the people on here love to bash the dairy farmers!  

Do you drink milk?  Bet you ain't out there milking you club calf cows for it!!  

I've seen many a dairy cow raise many a great calf as a recip.  Seem quite a few of those cows raise 2 calves to...  The heavy milking Hol. that is...  

Matter of fact, we are in process of breeding all our dairy heifers to a RA bull, and will be marketing those daughters as recips!  

To the 2 of you that think there is no maternal in a dairy animal-- Have  you been around a club calf cow??  Better not call the kettle black!!  
Seems only to be common sense to put your trust in a cow that milks and might raise a calf, as to wasting $$ on one that can't milk or mother a calf

i dont need a black cow that will milk enough to raise a whole family. we dont keep any clubby cows that dont milk.  so if people want to use dairy cows as recips go ahead, i wont be doing that! more sense to have a cow that is maternal based and that is a good mother.  if cows aren't good mothers around here they go to sale barn!

bump

Why bump this???  Please, let's show some mercy and let it drift off into oblivion...

Dyer Show cattle said:

I have not seen a sign for him on a pen or him in a pen the past couple years I have been to hawkeye.

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I saw Heatwave last Oct at Great Lakes Sire - Michigan. No he was not pretty but he was there. Two of the clones were there too?

who cares if he is dead there are better bulls that are up and coming

hevmando said:

Holstein no, but what about a Milking Shorthorn or a Brown Swiss?  Big enough to handle club calf breeding, don't milk enough to cause scours?  Not inbred like the holsteins so still have enough natural instincts in them?  Am I way off base?

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using a dairy cow to raise an ET or orphaned calf could be done with a milking shorthorn. some friends of mine raise and show milking shorthorns. They only keep their show cows at their house and instead of milking only 5 or 6 cows they just leave the calves on the cows and the calves do just fine and the cows still have very strong maternal instincts.