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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2012, 01:30:10 PM »
So you support Gay Marrige...HHMM

When a Farmer/Rancher goes this direction you really do have to ask yourself ''what is this world coming to''


We believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.

Consequently, we defend each person's right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from governmentorany authoritarian power.

 
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2012, 02:14:36 PM »
I honestly do not have a problem against gay marraige.  I know that I'm kind of jumping in, but who really cares?
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2012, 04:07:39 PM »
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So you support Gay Marrige...HHMM

When a Farmer/Rancher goes this direction you really do have to ask yourself ''what is this world coming to''


We believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.

Consequently, we defend each person's right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from governmentorany authoritarian power.

 



What the hell is wrong with gay marriage? Is it any of your business and does it directly affect the way you live? I'd really like to hear you answer to these questions.


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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2012, 05:50:38 PM »
I recently recieved an email that I thought was pretty good.    The author recommended that to show support for your favored candidate in the November presidential election, Romney supporters should drive with their lights on during the day and the Obama supporters should drive with their lights off at night.    This seemed to me to be a simple and effective way to accomplish our shared goals this fall.   Together we can make this work!
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2012, 07:56:14 PM »
So you support Gay Marrige...HHMM

When a Farmer/Rancher goes this direction you really do have to ask yourself ''what is this world coming to''


Is this Bill O'Reilly?

Who really cares what other people do with their lives?  What gives the government the right to control us, I never signed any document saying I will do as the government tells me, did you?

It really shows how closed minded you are when you group "farmers/ranchers" into 1 ideological category. Farming is about growing food (not people) and living off of the land.

Now if all my cattle turned gay then I gots a problem....




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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2012, 07:59:32 PM »
who has the right to be offended?

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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2012, 08:06:54 PM »
So you support Gay Marrige...HHMM

When a Farmer/Rancher goes this direction you really do have to ask yourself ''what is this world coming to''


We believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.

Consequently, we defend each person's right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from governmentorany authoritarian power.

 
Absolutely! But like Zach said, its none of my damn business what you or anyone else does in the privacy of their own home.  Who the hell are you to deny someone their own pursuit of happiness?   Just because I support an individual's right to make choices in life does not mean that I necessarily approve or disapprove of those choices. Individuals should be free to make choices for themselves and to accept responsibility for the consequences of the choices they make. Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the way you treat somebody. The Government should not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.

I also believe only actions that infringe on the rights of others can properly be termed crimes. I favor the repeal of all laws creating crimes without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes.  The government should be kept out of all personal matters. The question should be left to each person for their conscientious consideration.

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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2012, 08:59:09 PM »
Well I have a right to be offended and voice my opinion. I don't agree with it and never will. What I have more of a problem with is Mr. Obama trying to take the power away from the states. I live in a conservative state and don't have to worry about my state allowing or recognizing gay marriage unless they try to take that power away from the state. Another thing I did not support was gays in the military or at least there policy "Don't ask don't tell", well Mr. Obama changed that also. There is not any change that he has given us that I like. Mr. Obama will not be happy to he turns this into a communist country, this country can not take another 4 years of his change and that is the bottom line, hope America wakes up. I served this country in the military and still serve it as a police officer, I love my country and hate to see this so called president destroying it as our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. The day they take the rights from the people is the day I become an outlaw.
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2012, 09:29:57 PM »
Well I have a right to be offended and voice my opinion. I don't agree with it and never will. What I have more of a problem with is Mr. Obama trying to take the power away from the states. I live in a conservative state and don't have to worry about my state allowing or recognizing gay marriage unless they try to take that power away from the state. Another thing I did not support was gays in the military or at least there policy "Don't ask don't tell", well Mr. Obama changed that also. There is not any change that he has given us that I like. Mr. Obama will not be happy to he turns this into a communist country, this country can not take another 4 years of his change and that is the bottom line, hope America wakes up. I served this country in the military and still serve it as a police officer, I love my country and hate to see this so called president destroying it as our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. The day they take the rights from the people is the day I become an outlaw.
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2012, 09:42:02 PM »
Well I have a right to be offended and voice my opinion. I don't agree with it and never will. What I have more of a problem with is Mr. Obama trying to take the power away from the states. I live in a conservative state and don't have to worry about my state allowing or recognizing gay marriage unless they try to take that power away from the state. Another thing I did not support was gays in the military or at least there policy "Don't ask don't tell", well Mr. Obama changed that also. There is not any change that he has given us that I like. Mr. Obama will not be happy to he turns this into a communist country, this country can not take another 4 years of his change and that is the bottom line, hope America wakes up. I served this country in the military and still serve it as a police officer, I love my country and hate to see this so called president destroying it as our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. The day they take the rights from the people is the day I become an outlaw.


I hate to comment on this stuff. Seriously absolutely.
BUT if you are going to say we are turning into a communist country then your statements are contradictory. Giving more rights to the individual is NOT communist. You wouldn't be able to voice what you just voiced in a communist country. Our fore fathers escaped persecution for many reasons and i am sure the last thing they wanted the government doing was regulating MARRIAGE or peoples sexual behavior. What people do behind close doors is NONE of my business. I could careless. The bigger issue is that people care what is going on behind close doors in the privacy of peoples homes.
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2012, 09:59:57 PM »
Well I have a right to be offended and voice my opinion. I don't agree with it and never will. What I have more of a problem with is Mr. Obama trying to take the power away from the states. I live in a conservative state and don't have to worry about my state allowing or recognizing gay marriage unless they try to take that power away from the state. Another thing I did not support was gays in the military or at least there policy "Don't ask don't tell", well Mr. Obama changed that also. There is not any change that he has given us that I like. Mr. Obama will not be happy to he turns this into a communist country, this country can not take another 4 years of his change and that is the bottom line, hope America wakes up. I served this country in the military and still serve it as a police officer, I love my country and hate to see this so called president destroying it as our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. The day they take the rights from the people is the day I become an outlaw.
[/quote VERY well said BIG M SHOW CATTLE (clapping)]

Everything this simpleton proposes, supports taking "rights from the people." He's so wound up in his puritanical mantra, he fails to see the bigotry and hate spewing from his mouth.  An American soldier that never grasped the true meaning of Liberty and FREEDOM. Ironic.

Protect and serve? Sounds more like govern and control -
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2012, 10:05:41 PM »
The day they take the rights from the people is the day I become an outlaw.

You say that, yet you don't want Gays to have the right to get married or even be in the military?  There are plenty of homosexuals who have DIED IN WAR to defend the same freedoms you served for and how you can discriminate against those same people (In The United States of America, Land Of The Free <rock>) is beyond me.  

Give me one good reason LGBT folks aren't entitled to happiness.
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2012, 10:15:35 PM »
Being straight is offensive..

Being straight and having a word to describe a straight relationship should not be allowed.

It might make someone happy. 
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2012, 10:29:47 PM »
Well I have a right to be offended and voice my opinion. I don't agree with it and never will. What I have more of a problem with is Mr. Obama trying to take the power away from the states. I live in a conservative state and don't have to worry about my state allowing or recognizing gay marriage unless they try to take that power away from the state. Another thing I did not support was gays in the military or at least there policy "Don't ask don't tell", well Mr. Obama changed that also. There is not any change that he has given us that I like. Mr. Obama will not be happy to he turns this into a communist country, this country can not take another 4 years of his change and that is the bottom line, hope America wakes up. I served this country in the military and still serve it as a police officer, I love my country and hate to see this so called president destroying it as our founding fathers are rolling in their graves. The day they take the rights from the people is the day I become an outlaw.
[/quote VERY well said BIG M SHOW CATTLE (clapping)]

Everything this simpleton proposes, supports taking "rights from the people." He's so wound up in his puritanical mantra, he fails to see the bigotry and hate spewing from his mouth.  An American soldier that never grasped the true meaning of Liberty and FREEDOM. Ironic.

Protect and serve? Sounds more like govern and control -

XBAR, you are totally lost or need some serious help, you have no clue what it means to protect and serve or serve your country. Yes Obama would like to govern and control while take the rights from the people, that is real common to see. I did not say we were turning into a communist country, I said Obama would like to turn us into a Communist country, it is the people standing up to our rights and the constitution that would stop it. Bigotry? Huh all to well, Bigotry to you most be saying I don't support it, I did not put any hate into it, saying I don't support it and never will, big hate there XBAR, like I said you don't have a clue. For the same I can say that you are a bigot for anything that you don't agree with or anyone you don't agree with. Just because I served my country with pride and my community with integrity does not mean I have to agree with your ate up beliefs. Zach I never said that gays did not die for this country and don't deserve happiness either, I just said that I did not support them changing the way the military was with the don't ask don't tell. They have had the same freedoms, if they wanted to get married, go a state that allows it. But long story short this should be in the voters hands then we will see if you are in the minority or not. Rite now the voters had no voice in this.
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Re: Vote Odama Out
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2012, 10:37:06 PM »

What the hell is wrong with gay marriage? Is it any of your business and does it directly affect the way you live? I'd really like to hear you answer to these questions.





1.  Bible says it's a no no!
2.  Does it directly affect the way I live?  No but it does directly affect the way a lot of kids are brought up and hence affects future generations choices on what is right and wrong.  What is the big deal on gay's getting married (why is it so important to gays - serious ? why?).  I will not treat anyone unfairly because of their sex, race, sexual orientation, religion, etc., but I also refuse to support the destruction of marriage as I know it.
This discussion isn't about what people are doing behind closed doors, it's about what people are trying to shove in other's faces and saying this is okay and I need special treatment.
 If you want to be gay that is your choice, but marriage is between a man and a woman (move on already).
3.  Take a look at abortion - once upon a time no one could think about killing a baby but a couple generations later its pro choice and women's rights and getting rid of the problem (every one's rights are looked at but the babies).  Pets today have more rights that unborn babies.

XBAR -   If man can't govern himself, how can he govern others!?  Are you saying we shouldn't have any laws and everyone will live in perfect harmony?
How is this country different now than it was in 1776 besides the technology?  Where did we go wrong?                   My answer- We the people have changed and not in a good way, we have lost sight of what is important and our morals, we are so in love with ourselves and our own rights that we have forgotten whats most important and have lost our way.  No one is perfect.  We have taken God's word out of every part of society because it might be offensive to someone somewhere (no wonder we are in decline). 

Knabe - I think we should take away your posting ability! ;D

Big M - I agree with most of what you have said.

« Last Edit: May 30, 2012, 10:51:19 PM by nate53 »
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