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« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2020, 10:43:01 AM »
Well Mark,  I would NEVER use a frame 4 bull.  Never have, never will.   That creates frame 3 females after the original good genetics have been diluted.   The average cow in my herd is a mid six frame score.   The smallest cow I have is a frame score 5.6 and she won't have another calf here.   The three year old bull out with the younger cows is a frame score 7.1 and the old Pioneer bull is a frame score 8.5.   Not what many of you are looking for and that is fine with me!   These cattle suit my preference and that is what I will continue to breed.   And I seldom pull a calf.   
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« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2020, 11:27:21 AM »
Send the good mid 4 frame bulls my way. Both my senior herdsires are mid 4s:  Saskvalley Editor and Leveldale Genesis.  Much taller and theyll be a bag of bones around here.
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« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2020, 11:34:53 AM »
Quote from: Dale on July 21, 2020, 04:57:09 PM
Duncraggan, JJC Wild Side was no bigger than a frame score 4.  His daughters may average frame 5 due to the growth genetics of their dams.
Good size! Like his slick summer hair coat as well!

Quote from: mark tenenbaum on July 21, 2020, 07:02:37 PM
That would make him an ideal candidate for IDALEE-Frame 4-easy keeping and calving-total outcross-AND THICK O0
Probably for me too!
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« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2020, 11:39:10 AM »
Quote from: -XBAR- on July 22, 2020, 11:27:21 AM
Send the good mid 4 frame bulls my way. Both my senior herdsires are mid 4s:  Saskvalley Editor and Leveldale Genesis.  Much taller and theyll be a bag of bones around here.
My area as well. And slick in summer for the heat and ticks!
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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2020, 04:43:12 PM »
Quote from: idalee on July 22, 2020, 10:43:01 AM
Well Mark,  I would NEVER use a frame 4 bull.  Never have, never will.   That creates frame 3 females after the original good genetics have been diluted.   The average cow in my herd is a mid six frame score.   The smallest cow I have is a frame score 5.6 and she won't have another calf here.   The three year old bull out with the younger cows is a frame score 7.1 and the old Pioneer bull is a frame score 8.5.   Not what many of you are looking for and that is fine with me!   These cattle suit my preference and that is what I will continue to breed.   And I seldom pull a calf. //// I keep getting you mixed up with the other lady from out west who likes 4 frames
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« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2020, 06:14:03 PM »
"Ida" is not my name. 
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« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2020, 01:44:55 AM »
Never said it was-
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« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2020, 01:46:18 AM »
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« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2020, 03:34:39 PM »
Putting this guy out on cleanup duty this weekend
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« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2020, 11:11:19 PM »
Nice. Breeding?
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« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2020, 06:56:23 AM »
Quote from: Duncraggan on July 23, 2020, 11:11:19 PM
Nice. Breeding?
Sired by JDMC Standout out of an Alta Cedar Samurai cow
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« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2020, 09:34:21 AM »
Your roan bull has a lot of utility.  There are a bunch of good people and high quality cattle behind him--that's a good combo.
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« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2020, 11:16:45 AM »
Quote from: Dale on July 24, 2020, 09:34:21 AM
Your roan bull has a lot of utility.  There are a bunch of good people and high quality cattle behind him--that's a good combo.
Thank you, I think he's going to be a good option for cleaning up post-AI/ET without giving up value in the natural-service calves
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« Reply #58 on: July 24, 2020, 04:48:26 PM »
Roan bull has weak back with faulty thurl position.   
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« Reply #59 on: July 24, 2020, 06:36:32 PM »
Quote from: idalee on July 24, 2020, 04:48:26 PM
Roan bull has weak back with faulty thurl position.
I wasn't going to mention it but he does look like he could use a pusher axle in the middle.  I don't know how important that is dollar wise or if it is just my preference but that tail head points pretty high too.
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