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Any of these genetics still around?  These deep chested bulls are exactly what I like to see. 
All to common to see bulls that have greater flank circumference than heart girth. 

Performance programs have been around a long time.  The first bull test station was in Texas in 1941.   In 1954,  The Red Angus Association of American became the first breed association to initiate a performance program.  In 1955,  a group of West Texas producers and Extension Agents developed Performance Registry International which quickly became national.   Milking Shorthorn had its own Gain Registry program which started in 1962.   In addition,  Milking Shorthorn originated the certified Native Shorthorn registry.   So it is discouraging that the great majority of bulls listed in this bull listing have ZERO DATA!

I want to thank XBAR for asking the most pertinent question on this thread �Do any of these genetics still exist?�  Yes.  I know of several members of the Heritage Shorthorn Society who have these genetics, some of whom have posted on this thread.  The one I want to highlight is Wally Klose (Diamond K Shorthorns-Twin Bridges, Montana) who raises Heritage Influenced Shorthorns and owns a bull, Harvey Fulton 32A (ASA #4206631), who is the �spitting image� of Weston Romeo except he is bigger, thicker and still alive.  I have seen Harvey at different times of the year and he stays in amazing condition no matter what he has available to eat.  If you look closely at the Harvey pictures I have included you will see he is grazing on some of Wally�s �finest pasture�.   No Iowa corn for Harvey.  I am sure many of you know Wally and realize he runs a no frills operation.  They either make it or they are on a one way trip to town.  Harvey is sired by Kenmar President 26A and includes Kenmar Ransom 32Z, Pleasant dawn Seal 2nd, and HHFS Dream Weaver on his maternal side.  Wally�s market has always been the commercial cattlemen and he has made a living selling Shorthorns to that market for approximately 60 years.  Too bad there are not many Shorthorn breeders left that have his �MO� (modus operandi for Dragnet fans).

On another note - the semen from the older Heritage bulls sold really well the other day in Horseshoe Creeks Frozen in time sale.

Semen is near bottom of first page and there is more on the second.

https://edjeauctions.com/auction.php?aucid=141

Of course there's all sorts of information out there on many of those old bulls.  I've mentioned on this site several times the ASA sire tests of the mid to late 70's.  Nearly all of the bulls tested were either straight beef, straight dual, or a combination of the two.  Irish influence had not become extremely popular yet.  I believe there were about 25 bulls compared the year my bull was in the test.  The ASA has got to have this information somewhere.  I know it was published in the Shorthorn magazines of the day.  The test basically ran from conception to carcass.  My old ABS sire books also have performance information on the progeny of all their bulls, as do the other AI magazines I have.  The ABS issue I look at the most has performance data on progeny of Leader 21, Leader 9, Merriwong Smuggler, Lone Pine Grand Society, and there's another Australian bull I can't remember.  Unfortunately, most of this data has been neglected for many years.  It's out there.   

And...In my ( limited) experience, I've never seen a calf grow as fast as this DMH Snowball call by a Leader 6th son. I don't understand how he is doing it...the other calves, including the homeborn Galloways and crosses are just going along steady, but this one is getting heavier and taller every day. I wish he was named Snow Chief or something.

Idalee...no argument here. I'd like to see ultrasound for IMF as well. I was just wondering if I could load him every week and run down to the gravel pit to weigh the trailer...but there is so much mud right now it would never work. I'm afraid he is headed for frame 6.., not what I need.