Heritage/Native Shorthorn Bull Listing

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beebe said:
oakview said:
Who would be qualified to make a list of bulls that are "relevant" and those that are not?  Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.  I know of no one that could make such a list based on the bulls of today of any breed, let alone those of 40+ years ago.  If one person sees a use for any bull, then he is "relevant."
I agree, I recently harvested a steer sired by  a not quite frame score 4 bull out of a cow that might weigh 1200 lbs.  He weighed 1250 and hung an 830 pound carcass.  That is profitable even though some people would think that is too small.... THAT ISNT SMALL AT ALL AND IT ALSO DOESNT SOUND LIKE THE NORM  THE NORM OUT OF WHAT SOUNDS LIKE PRETTY SMALL FRAMED CATTLE TO BEGIN WITH O0
 

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mark tenenbaum said:
beebe said:
oakview said:
Who would be qualified to make a list of bulls that are "relevant" and those that are not?  Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.  I know of no one that could make such a list based on the bulls of today of any breed, let alone those of 40+ years ago.  If one person sees a use for any bull, then he is "relevant."
I agree, I recently harvested a steer sired by  a not quite frame score 4 bull out of a cow that might weigh 1200 lbs.  He weighed 1250 and hung an 830 pound carcass.  That is profitable even though some people would think that is too small.... THAT ISNT SMALL AT ALL AND IT ALSO DOESNT SOUND LIKE THE NORM  THE NORM OUT OF WHAT SOUNDS LIKE PRETTY SMALL FRAMED CATTLE TO BEGIN WITH O0
This particular steer was a straight Native Shorthorn.  He was very deep and very thick.  He finished quite easily and that apparently contributed to his hanging weight.  I think that he probably carried the F94L myostatin gene, so maybe that isn't the norm. 
 

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beebe said:
mark tenenbaum said:
beebe said:
oakview said:
Who would be qualified to make a list of bulls that are "relevant" and those that are not?  Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.  I know of no one that could make such a list based on the bulls of today of any breed, let alone those of 40+ years ago.  If one person sees a use for any bull, then he is "relevant."
I agree, I recently harvested a steer sired by  a not quite frame score 4 bull out of a cow that might weigh 1200 lbs.  He weighed 1250 and hung an 830 pound carcass.  That is profitable even though some people would think that is too small.... THAT ISNT SMALL AT ALL AND IT ALSO DOESNT SOUND LIKE THE NORM  THE NORM OUT OF WHAT SOUNDS LIKE PRETTY SMALL FRAMED CATTLE TO BEGIN WITH O0
This particular steer was a straight Native Shorthorn.  He was very deep and very thick.  He finished quite easily and that apparently contributed to his hanging weight.  I think that he probably carried the F94L myostatin gene, so maybe that isn't the norm.
beebe, how was the meat?
 

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librarian said:
beebe said:
mark tenenbaum said:
beebe said:
oakview said:
Who would be qualified to make a list of bulls that are "relevant" and those that are not?  Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.  I know of no one that could make such a list based on the bulls of today of any breed, let alone those of 40+ years ago.  If one person sees a use for any bull, then he is "relevant."
I agree, I recently harvested a steer sired by  a not quite frame score 4 bull out of a cow that might weigh 1200 lbs.  He weighed 1250 and hung an 830 pound carcass.  That is profitable even though some people would think that is too small.... THAT ISNT SMALL AT ALL AND IT ALSO DOESNT SOUND LIKE THE NORM  THE NORM OUT OF WHAT SOUNDS LIKE PRETTY SMALL FRAMED CATTLE TO BEGIN WITH O0
This particular steer was a straight Native Shorthorn.  He was very deep and very thick.  He finished quite easily and that apparently contributed to his hanging weight.  I think that he probably carried the F94L myostatin gene, so maybe that isn't the norm.
beebe, how was the meat?

I didn't get to eat any of that one, I can't keep up anymore but the customers were happy with it.
 

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Bodied down some with age O0
What is this bull you have pictured?/// Wally ? Close I think has him he came odd his website I believe hes the samebull in pictures on another thread  Regardless hes the kind I like on a very wide made high performing female-Maybe with a shot of maine or clubby-but very sound-To me its my mix idea-If its blasphemy for me to think for myself stick it where the sun dont shine  O0 I was around showing competitively against 45 year old pros at the age of 11 or 12 etc  when the grandparents of that bull were around back in 1961 to 1965 O0
 

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For those interested the new "Spotlight On Member" column on the Heritage Shorthorn Society features Wally Klose and Diamond K Shorthorns.  There are also additional pictures of his bull "Harvey Fulton 32A" who has been discussed on this thread and is sired by Kenmar President 26A and is out of a daughter of Kenmar Ransom 32Z.  Harvey is probably the biggest Shorthorn bull in the USA today.  The pictures show Harvey as an eight year old bull.
 

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I couldnt pull the pictures up-Id like to see him Back in the day we had some pretty big bulls Deertrail Awesome remains the biggest bull ive ever seen of any breed Big being a combo of frame length and mass He was around 3500 plus pounds at least O0
 

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mark tenenbaum said:
I couldnt pull the pictures up-Id like to see him Back in the day we had some pretty big bulls Deertrail Awesome remains the biggest bull ive ever seen of any breed Big being a combo of frame length and mass He was around 3500 plus pounds at least O0
Who sired him?
 

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Awesome was 1990 National champion Sired by HS Instant Enticer and out Of Deertrail Rhinestone a Beautiful cow Mill Brooke Marc IV x a hilltop cow  https://shorthorn.digitalbeef.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=_animal&file=_animal&search_value=&animal_registration=3851564&member_id=   

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