holstein x clubby

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KeithBork

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We are looking to use a club calf bull as clean up on our Holstein cows. Which bull would give the most power and muscle? Obviously framing down would be fine too. Thanks.
 

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I use alot of old clubby bulls on our late lactation cows. All of them have worked so far. Sold some 40 day old shorthorn x Holstein bulls at last sale brought $1120 for pair. Weighed 315 on the two. Feeders like them!
 

KeithBork

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$20 is no problem to spend, even up to $30. I just want to know a current bull that sires the most muscle and power. We have access to all major studs plus any that can be ordered from.
 

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Wulf's are doing this with limousin bulls and dairy cows, might try giving them a call, pretty sure they would buy the calves if you have enough of them.
 

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^^ If you're just wanting feeder calves, Id be using a really terminal fullblood Limo or Charolais.  Maybe even look into the Blues. 

 

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^^ If you're just wanting feeder calves, Id be using a really terminal fullblood Limo or Charolais.  Maybe even look into the Blues.
Good advice until you got to the Blues part.  We have friends who bred dairy cows limo with great success and thought they would try belgian blues.  2/3 of the calf crop was c-section, the other 1/3 was dead.  What worked well was a 1/2 belgian blue 1/2 angus bull that they used afterwards.  Holsteins aren't built to calve those big shouldered blues.
 

KeithBork

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We are looking to breed 5 cows to club calf. Our county fair is very very weak as far as a steer, we were wondering if these calves could compete. The heifers would be kept for breeding. We have beef cows also, so please don't say buy a beef steer or that. We really would like to see if you can compete with a dairy cross clubby at a weak show.
 

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In response to the above two posts, the response is the same. Variation within breeds make it silly to even think in generalized breed terms.  There's cow killers in ever breed and ones that'll calve just fine in every breed. 

As far as the Holstein crosses and whether they're capable of competing, my opinion is that it is contingent on what type of Holsteins you have.  I've seen huge boned 2000lb monster cows and I've seen 1100lbers that were pretty fine made and everything in between.  I think you'd have better luck with the prior as you can use one of these sawed off clubby bulls to knock the legs off them while till retaining the substance you're going to need.
 

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Wulf's are using the Jersey breed's meat quality attributes to complement the Limi's cutability / carcass attributes.
 

KeithBork

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I know I can breed the beef cows to it. We have in the past and continue to do it. But my question is about Holstein x clubby. Wulfs is for jersey x limo calves. I only plan on getting 3-5 cross calves. Which bulls do you see working best on mid-large frame Holstein cows? We are curious if we can compete at low level county fair with a dairy cross steer.
 

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  This is just me. I would find the best Hereford bull that I could within my price range. That way you are assured of a BWF calf and if you get a heifer calf you could find a use for her if she was good enough. May try to find a Hereford clubbie cross like Carpe Diem, maybe Deadliest Catch.
 

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I can't imagine a legitimate purpose for breeding a club calf bull to a holstein.  Calves are unlikely to be good at anything.  I'd be shocked if you could get a competetive show steer out of a dairy cow.  It's hard to get one out of good Angus cows.
 

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I would consider the Shorthorn bulls Jakes Proud Jazz or Uncle.
Both are thick, small framed and could show/register calves as Shorthorn Plus.
 

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chambero said:
I can't imagine a legitimate purpose for breeding a club calf bull to a holstein.  Calves are unlikely to be good at anything.  I'd be shocked if you could get a competetive show steer out of a dairy cow.  It's hard to get one out of good Angus cows.

Exactly what I'm trying to get across
 

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It makes as much sense as raising high birthweight, poor milking, slow growing, genetic train wrecks that people call clubby cattle.

If that is what he wants, why not help him find a suitable mate for his Holsteins.
 
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