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Re: Horned Herefords
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2010, 02:42:14 PM »
An "old timer" once told me, lose the horn and lose the hip. Ponder that next time you are looking through a pasture that contains both.

Hum??? Not just with Horned Herfs!!!

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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2010, 05:23:55 PM »
An old timer told me remove the horns remove the brains. Are horned cattle quieter. Justintime one of the hfrs I clipped is out of a Canadian dam Embryos imported from Hirsche Herefords nice cattle a bit yellow in the coat.

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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2010, 05:29:02 PM »
The best acting/doecile Herford calves we have bought or raised were all horned claves they also have a bigger hip and wider top and rear. For sure!

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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2010, 06:41:18 PM »
Sounds like we should be plugging in some HH into our shorties. Still get the english cross and then when bred to the black angus......... sounds good to me! So what HH bulls would work the best on shorties? I know very little about herefords peroid. But when you study some of the herds out there, IMO they are hard to ignore.  I like the sounds of a red baldy. I know red angus already beat us to it, but it's worth a try.

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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2010, 06:53:41 PM »
So what HH bulls would work the best on shorties?

I know Saskvalley use Hereford bulls in their commercial program on shorthorns. The  cross the other way around gives some of the best mother cows you can get.

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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2010, 07:25:36 PM »
Anyone cross shorthorns and horned Herefords on here? I use to want nothing to do with herefords but after researching them on cattle today and seeing some awesome cattle, I feel they have their rightful place as well.

We crossed a horned hereford bull on a  Heat Wave cow and got the coolest bald faced heifer calf.  She is a keeper and did it again this year.  Can't wait to show this one.  We took a chance when other people laughed.  I wonder what they will say when they see her??
Our other odd cross was a Red Angus on an Alias cow(1/2 black angus).  First timer and heifer calf is  black and is another keeper.  Outcrosses need to be introduced to keep the genetics healthyy

I bet a shorthorn and a herf would marry up pretty well and you sure can't beat the herfords temperment.

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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2010, 03:20:13 PM »
I know there is a Hereford ranch in Illinois that uses a lot of shorthorn bulls for clean up on his fall calving herd. The ones he had turned out hereford looking exactly.

We have both horned and polled cows at our farm. We have noticed the polled ones are a little frailer boned but have a lot better hair. The only thing with the Horned cattle you have to be careful of is they tend to get a little heavier fronted.

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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2010, 07:45:22 AM »
I've had the pleasure of clipping at Adams Hirsche's on a few occasions for their fall sale as well as the spring sale in Oklahoma. The horned cattle are by far superior to the polled anyday of the week. We'd clip 100 bull calves, that were very green broke, tied to gates in their sale barn. 
One of my good friends and clients bought into GH Col Patton. He was a polled breeder and could see the polled cattle going downhill fast and wanted to change this. That bull turned his herd around.
One of the gentlemen that JIT listed in another thread, a former Shorty breeder, along with his sons, had one of the most successful and powerful polled hereford herds in North America, probably the world. You can trace almost all of his pedigrees back no further than 3 to 4 generations and to find a horned bull.
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